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Youtube is pretty unusable, as they throttle videos, and links sometimes dont work. It has gone downhill fast in recent years.

ConceptJunkie 11mo ago
I have no problems with YouTube at all. Perhaps it's because I pay for Premium (primarily to get YouTube music). Regardless, Google services getting worse over time is becoming a law rather than a tendency.
- cons0le 11mo ago
  I don't get the value ad of youtube music. Everything's already on youtube and they let you make playlists, and they have playlists of the top charts already. What else does youtube music get you? I can play on my phone with the screen off with yt vanced ( and I would never pay just for that feature, because I remember when it was free and they took it away )
  - weaksauce 11mo ago
    > I can play on my phone with the screen off with yt vanced there's a lot of iphone/ipad users out there. > Everything's already on youtube and they let you make playlists, and they have playlists of the top charts already I don't use it but ui probably. ads maybe. plenty of people have money and don't want the inconvenience of trying to get around it.
  - j45 11mo ago
    You can play youtube videos (ad free) as music on any chromecast device including chromecast homes with the microphone turned off. Also, when playing music you won't be hit with ads. Your setup can move with you wherever you are, home, travel, in the vehicle. This can be helpful for engaging the audible sensors of small aliens sans screen. Youtube without ads on every device, anywhere, is quite a different experience.
  - charcircuit 11mo ago
    No ads on music, no ads on shorts (shorts are allowed to freely use copyrighted music unlike long form video), background playback, downloading music to your device. These all are big value ads for me.
  - jack_pp 11mo ago
    You get music discovery, radios, go to album, go to artist
  - raydev 11mo ago
    For me, it just comes with Premium, and I buy Premium to support the creators I watch often without having to watch ads. I want them to get paid.
- anonym29 11mo ago
  Quick, everyone start sending unwanted junk mail to this guy's house, he'll pay you to stop!
  - dyselon 11mo ago
    Heaven forbid someone pay for an online service they use and enjoy.
    - a96 11mo ago
      I do, but not for services that treat their users (and content creators!) like YT does.
    - tripzilch 11mo ago
      Their point is that it's not "paying for" but it's "paying off".
      - dyselon 11mo ago
        Sure, it's just a poor analogy. YouTube doesn't show up at your door unprompted as junk mail does. You go there intentionally for the purpose of watching a video. You can pay for that video with your time or your money. No one is being "paid off" in that scenario.
        anonym29 11mo ago
        Third option: I don't pay for it, I don't load the ads, and the trillion dollar company figures out a way to live with the economic consequences of their own decisions. The company voluntarily decided to serve the content at no charge to consumers, at the company's own expense, to the internet at large, with no reasonable expectation of any obligations from the people they're freely offering the content to. They're welcome to stop freely offering it the moment they decide they don't want to be the world's most popular video sharing and viewing platform anymore. Until then, neither I nor anyone else has any obligation to pay them, run any part of their front-end code (includig the ad-serving parts), or view any of their ads.
- supportengineer 11mo ago
  No one ever got a promotion for maintaining software
shermantanktop 11mo ago
No idea what you are talking about. I don’t have premium and use in both logged in and logged out.
- nancyminusone 11mo ago
  If I'm logged out, I get "Sign in to confirm you're not a bot" about once a week from both home and the office.
ranger_danger 11mo ago
No issues here for me with uBO, logged in or not, no premium
kiwijamo 11mo ago
They limit the buffer to around 30secs or so like all other streaming services but otherwise 95%+ of the time it just plays smoothing with no buffering at all from start to end. YouTube is generally in the top 3 of the video streaming services I use. Even on 4G wireless (which I occassionally use) it works well enough which is impressive as other video steaming services struggle (with the sole exception of Netflix which is probably the only one better than YouTube).

ConceptJunkie 11mo ago

I have no problems with YouTube at all. Perhaps it's because I pay for Premium (primarily to get YouTube music). Regardless, Google services getting worse over time is becoming a law rather than a tendency.

cons0le 11mo ago
I don't get the value ad of youtube music. Everything's already on youtube and they let you make playlists, and they have playlists of the top charts already. What else does youtube music get you? I can play on my phone with the screen off with yt vanced ( and I would never pay just for that feature, because I remember when it was free and they took it away )
- weaksauce 11mo ago
  > I can play on my phone with the screen off with yt vanced there's a lot of iphone/ipad users out there. > Everything's already on youtube and they let you make playlists, and they have playlists of the top charts already I don't use it but ui probably. ads maybe. plenty of people have money and don't want the inconvenience of trying to get around it.
- j45 11mo ago
  You can play youtube videos (ad free) as music on any chromecast device including chromecast homes with the microphone turned off. Also, when playing music you won't be hit with ads. Your setup can move with you wherever you are, home, travel, in the vehicle. This can be helpful for engaging the audible sensors of small aliens sans screen. Youtube without ads on every device, anywhere, is quite a different experience.
- charcircuit 11mo ago
  No ads on music, no ads on shorts (shorts are allowed to freely use copyrighted music unlike long form video), background playback, downloading music to your device. These all are big value ads for me.
- jack_pp 11mo ago
  You get music discovery, radios, go to album, go to artist
- raydev 11mo ago
  For me, it just comes with Premium, and I buy Premium to support the creators I watch often without having to watch ads. I want them to get paid.
anonym29 11mo ago
Quick, everyone start sending unwanted junk mail to this guy's house, he'll pay you to stop!
- dyselon 11mo ago
  Heaven forbid someone pay for an online service they use and enjoy.
  - a96 11mo ago
    I do, but not for services that treat their users (and content creators!) like YT does.
  - tripzilch 11mo ago
    Their point is that it's not "paying for" but it's "paying off".
    - dyselon 11mo ago
      Sure, it's just a poor analogy. YouTube doesn't show up at your door unprompted as junk mail does. You go there intentionally for the purpose of watching a video. You can pay for that video with your time or your money. No one is being "paid off" in that scenario.
      - anonym29 11mo ago
        Third option: I don't pay for it, I don't load the ads, and the trillion dollar company figures out a way to live with the economic consequences of their own decisions. The company voluntarily decided to serve the content at no charge to consumers, at the company's own expense, to the internet at large, with no reasonable expectation of any obligations from the people they're freely offering the content to. They're welcome to stop freely offering it the moment they decide they don't want to be the world's most popular video sharing and viewing platform anymore. Until then, neither I nor anyone else has any obligation to pay them, run any part of their front-end code (includig the ad-serving parts), or view any of their ads.
supportengineer 11mo ago
No one ever got a promotion for maintaining software

shermantanktop 11mo ago

No idea what you are talking about. I don’t have premium and use in both logged in and logged out.

nancyminusone 11mo ago
If I'm logged out, I get "Sign in to confirm you're not a bot" about once a week from both home and the office.

ranger_danger 11mo ago

No issues here for me with uBO, logged in or not, no premium

kiwijamo 11mo ago

They limit the buffer to around 30secs or so like all other streaming services but otherwise 95%+ of the time it just plays smoothing with no buffering at all from start to end. YouTube is generally in the top 3 of the video streaming services I use. Even on 4G wireless (which I occassionally use) it works well enough which is impressive as other video steaming services struggle (with the sole exception of Netflix which is probably the only one better than YouTube).