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That's been true for the last year or two, but it feels like we're at an inflection point. All of the announcements from OpenAI for the last couple of months h

That's been true for the last year or two, but it feels like we're at an inflection point. All of the announcements from OpenAI for the last couple of months have been product focused - Instant Checkout, AgentKit, etc. Anthropic seems 100% focused on Claude Code. We're not hearing as much about AGI/Superintelligence (thank goodness) as we were earlier this year, in fact the big labs aren't even talking much about their next model releases. The focus has pivoted to building products from existing models (and building massive data centers to support anticipated consumption).

brandall10 11mo ago
Meta hiring researchers en masse at $100m+ pay packages is fairly new, as of this summer. I don't know if that's indicative of the market as a whole though. Zuck just seems really gutted they fell behind with Llama 4.
- andsoitis 11mo ago
  > Meta hiring researchers en masse at $100m+ pay packages is fairly new, as of this summer. En masse? Wasn't it just a couple of outliers?
  - debo_ 11mo ago
    en deux
    - kayge 11mo ago
      I think it was more than 2 though... en few? En feux.
- rco8786 11mo ago
  "en masse" is a stretch
- renegade-otter 11mo ago
  A lot of them left in the first days on the job. I guess they saw what they were going to work on and peaced out. No one wants to work on AI slop and mental abuse of children on social media.
  - _vqpz 11mo ago
    I don't understand how an intelligent person could accept a job offer from Facebook in 2025 and not understand what company they just agreed to work for.
    - kjreact 11mo ago
      It’s probably a VC fundraising strategy, “Meta gave me 100s of millions so you should give me more”.
    - pirates 11mo ago
      Those people are intelligent, they’re just selfish and have no qualms over making money off the repugnant crap they’re doing.
      - 998244353 11mo ago
        In that case, how come they "left in the first days of the job" because "they saw what they were going to work on and peaced out"?
        CamperBob2 11mo ago
        They may have found that the work they were called upon to perform was worse than what they'd been led to expect. Maybe much worse.
    - IncreasePosts 11mo ago
      It helps when they hand you comically large sacks with dollar signs on them
- deleted 11mo ago
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- DebtDeflation 11mo ago
  This summer was a lifetime ago.
- alfalfasprout 11mo ago
  It was a few researchers and they stopped doing that already. In a way, the AI market in H1 2025 is VERY different already than H2 2025.
ximeng 11mo ago
If Claude Code is Anthropic’s main focus why are they not responding to some of the most commented issues on their GitHub? https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/3648 https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/3648 has people begging for feedback and saying they’re moving to OpenAI, has been open since July and there are similar issues with 100+ comments.
- sidewndr46 11mo ago
  It's entirely possible they don't have the ability in house to resolve it. Based on the report this is a user interface issue. It could just be some strange setting they enabled somewhere. But it's also possible it's the result of some dependency 3 or 4 levels removed from their product. Even worse, it could be the result of interactions between multiple dependencies that are only apparent at runtime.
  - andersa 11mo ago
    Seems these users are getting it on VS code, while I am getting the exact same thing when using claude code on a Linux server over SSH from Windows Terminal. At this point their app has to be the only thing in common?
    - sidewndr46 11mo ago
      That's certainly an interesting observation. I wonder if they produce one client that has some kind of abstraction layer for the user interface & that abstraction layer has hidden or obscured this detail?
      - HumanOstrich 11mo ago
        > some kind of abstraction layer You mean a terminal interface?
  - bitbuilder 11mo ago
    >It's entirely possible they don't have the ability in house to resolve it. I've started breathing a little easier about the possibilty of AI taking all our software engineering jobs after using Anthropic's dev tools. If the people making the models and tools that are supposed to take all our jobs can't even fix their own issues in a dependable and expedient manner, then we're probably going to be ok for a bit. This isn't a slight against Anthropic, I love their products and use them extensively. It's more a recognition of the fact that the more difficult aspects of engineering are still quite difficult, and in a way LLMs just don't seem well suited for.
thefourthchime 11mo ago
You must not watch broadcast television (e.g American Football). Anthropic is doing a huge ad blitz, trying to get end customers to use their chatbot.
- commandar 11mo ago
  Anthropic, frankly, needs to in ways the other big names don't. It gets lost on people in techcentric fields because Claude's at the forefront of things we care about, but Anthropic is basically unknown among the wider populace. Last I'd looked a few months ago, Anthropic's brand awareness was in the middle single digits; OpenAI/ChatGPT was somewhere around 80% for comparison. MS/Copilot and Gemini were somewhere between the two but closer to Open AI than Anthropic. tl;dr - Anthropic has a lot more to gain from awareness campaigns than the other major model providers do.
  - potatoproduct 11mo ago
    Anthropic feels like a one trick pony as most users dont need or want anthropic products. However, I speak with a small subset of our most experienced engineers and they all love Claude Sonnet 4.5. Who knows if this lead will last.
    - commandar 11mo ago
      >Anthropic feels like a one trick pony as most users dont need or want anthropic products. I don't see what the basis for this is that wouldn't be equally true for OpenAI. Anthropic's edge is that they very arguably have some of the best technology available right now, despite operating at a fraction of the scale of their direct competitors. They have to start building mind and marketshare if they're going to hold that position, though, which is the point of advertising.
    - HarHarVeryFunny 11mo ago
      Anthropic are mostly selling, and having most success, with business customers (incl. selling API access for Claude Code). This is the reason they haven't bothered to provide an image generator yet - because Chat users are not their focus.
zombiwoof 11mo ago
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Salgat 11mo ago
The novelty of LLMs are wearing off, people are beginning to understand them for what they are and what they are capable of, and performance has been plateauing. I think that's why people are starting to worry that the AI bubble is a repeat of the dotcom bubble, which was a similar technological revolution.

brandall10 11mo ago

Meta hiring researchers en masse at $100m+ pay packages is fairly new, as of this summer. I don't know if that's indicative of the market as a whole though. Zuck just seems really gutted they fell behind with Llama 4.

andsoitis 11mo ago
> Meta hiring researchers en masse at $100m+ pay packages is fairly new, as of this summer. En masse? Wasn't it just a couple of outliers?
- debo_ 11mo ago
  en deux
  - kayge 11mo ago
    I think it was more than 2 though... en few? En feux.
rco8786 11mo ago
"en masse" is a stretch
renegade-otter 11mo ago
A lot of them left in the first days on the job. I guess they saw what they were going to work on and peaced out. No one wants to work on AI slop and mental abuse of children on social media.
- _vqpz 11mo ago
  I don't understand how an intelligent person could accept a job offer from Facebook in 2025 and not understand what company they just agreed to work for.
  - kjreact 11mo ago
    It’s probably a VC fundraising strategy, “Meta gave me 100s of millions so you should give me more”.
  - pirates 11mo ago
    Those people are intelligent, they’re just selfish and have no qualms over making money off the repugnant crap they’re doing.
    - 998244353 11mo ago
      In that case, how come they "left in the first days of the job" because "they saw what they were going to work on and peaced out"?
      - CamperBob2 11mo ago
        They may have found that the work they were called upon to perform was worse than what they'd been led to expect. Maybe much worse.
  - IncreasePosts 11mo ago
    It helps when they hand you comically large sacks with dollar signs on them
deleted 11mo ago
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DebtDeflation 11mo ago
This summer was a lifetime ago.
alfalfasprout 11mo ago
It was a few researchers and they stopped doing that already. In a way, the AI market in H1 2025 is VERY different already than H2 2025.

ximeng 11mo ago

If Claude Code is Anthropic’s main focus why are they not responding to some of the most commented issues on their GitHub? https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/3648 https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/3648 has people begging for feedback and saying they’re moving to OpenAI, has been open since July and there are similar issues with 100+ comments.

sidewndr46 11mo ago
It's entirely possible they don't have the ability in house to resolve it. Based on the report this is a user interface issue. It could just be some strange setting they enabled somewhere. But it's also possible it's the result of some dependency 3 or 4 levels removed from their product. Even worse, it could be the result of interactions between multiple dependencies that are only apparent at runtime.
- andersa 11mo ago
  Seems these users are getting it on VS code, while I am getting the exact same thing when using claude code on a Linux server over SSH from Windows Terminal. At this point their app has to be the only thing in common?
  - sidewndr46 11mo ago
    That's certainly an interesting observation. I wonder if they produce one client that has some kind of abstraction layer for the user interface & that abstraction layer has hidden or obscured this detail?
    - HumanOstrich 11mo ago
      > some kind of abstraction layer You mean a terminal interface?
- bitbuilder 11mo ago
  >It's entirely possible they don't have the ability in house to resolve it. I've started breathing a little easier about the possibilty of AI taking all our software engineering jobs after using Anthropic's dev tools. If the people making the models and tools that are supposed to take all our jobs can't even fix their own issues in a dependable and expedient manner, then we're probably going to be ok for a bit. This isn't a slight against Anthropic, I love their products and use them extensively. It's more a recognition of the fact that the more difficult aspects of engineering are still quite difficult, and in a way LLMs just don't seem well suited for.

thefourthchime 11mo ago

You must not watch broadcast television (e.g American Football). Anthropic is doing a huge ad blitz, trying to get end customers to use their chatbot.

commandar 11mo ago
Anthropic, frankly, needs to in ways the other big names don't. It gets lost on people in techcentric fields because Claude's at the forefront of things we care about, but Anthropic is basically unknown among the wider populace. Last I'd looked a few months ago, Anthropic's brand awareness was in the middle single digits; OpenAI/ChatGPT was somewhere around 80% for comparison. MS/Copilot and Gemini were somewhere between the two but closer to Open AI than Anthropic. tl;dr - Anthropic has a lot more to gain from awareness campaigns than the other major model providers do.
- potatoproduct 11mo ago
  Anthropic feels like a one trick pony as most users dont need or want anthropic products. However, I speak with a small subset of our most experienced engineers and they all love Claude Sonnet 4.5. Who knows if this lead will last.
  - commandar 11mo ago
    >Anthropic feels like a one trick pony as most users dont need or want anthropic products. I don't see what the basis for this is that wouldn't be equally true for OpenAI. Anthropic's edge is that they very arguably have some of the best technology available right now, despite operating at a fraction of the scale of their direct competitors. They have to start building mind and marketshare if they're going to hold that position, though, which is the point of advertising.
  - HarHarVeryFunny 11mo ago
    Anthropic are mostly selling, and having most success, with business customers (incl. selling API access for Claude Code). This is the reason they haven't bothered to provide an image generator yet - because Chat users are not their focus.

zombiwoof 11mo ago

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Salgat 11mo ago

The novelty of LLMs are wearing off, people are beginning to understand them for what they are and what they are capable of, and performance has been plateauing. I think that's why people are starting to worry that the AI bubble is a repeat of the dotcom bubble, which was a similar technological revolution.