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The online edition was edited later. "This newspaper report was originally edited using AI, which is in violation of Dawn’s current AI policy. The policy is al
by FatalLogic 11mo ago
The online edition was edited later.
"This newspaper report was originally edited using AI, which is in violation of Dawn’s current AI policy. The policy is also available on our website. The report also carried some junk, which has now been edited out. The matter is being investigated. The violation of AI policy is regretted. — Editor"
https://www.dawn.com/news/1954574 https://www.dawn.com/news/1954574
edit: Text link of the printed edition. Might not be perfect OCR, but I don't think they changed anything except to delete the AI comment at the end! https://pastebin.com/NYarkbwm https://pastebin.com/NYarkbwm
- nicbou 11mo ago> The violation of AI policy is regretted. That's a good example of when you shouldn't use passive voice.
- benterix 11mo agoOTOH kudos to them for regretting AI slop (even if they don't want to point out who precisely is regretting). I know some who'd vehemently deny in spite of evidence.
- serial_dev 11mo agoThey don't regret serving you AI slop, they regret that the "writer" didn't even read their own article and that they got caught because of it.
- IAmBroom 11mo ago"We regrets that mistakes were noticed."
- steve_taylor 11mo agoIt's a good example of when you should use AI.
- throwaway638637 11mo agoThat's just a manner of speaking in former British colonies, or at least the subcontinent. Much of formal speech like a bureaucrat wrote it because, well, the civil service ran India and that's who everyone emulated.
- thoroughburro 11mo ago> That's just a manner of speaking in former British colonies, or at least the subcontinent. Which is still a good example of when you shouldn't use passive voice. Clarifying where “optimising language to evade a responsibility” evolved does nothing to justify it, which you imply with “that’s just”.
- hbarka 11mo agoIt’s still passive voice, the kind used when trying to avoid blame or responsibility. So pretty much fits in bureaucratic places. That’s just…mistakes were made.
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- throwup238 11mo agoThis pattern of writing goes back to the Spanish conquistadors at the very least. They frequently described their actions in a passive voice when doing something they knew was horrible, only to switch to aggrandizing active voice when writing about their successes. It’s a standard way to blur responsibility and present violence as an almost natural “fact” rather than a deliberate action by identifiable agents. It didn’t escape everyone’s attention though. Bartolomé de las Casas definitely noticed it.
- pixelpoet 11mo ago> This door is alarmed
- dredmorbius 11mo agoThis is a convention for journalistic corrections, e.g., "The Times regrets the error", used to note corrections for at least a century: <https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/13/insider/the-times-regrets-the-error-readers-dont.html https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/13/insider/the-times-regrets...>
- strix_varius 11mo agoYour example is not passive voice.
- IAmBroom 11mo agoYes, they are pointing out how it should have been written.
- strix_varius 11mo agoApparently not.
- vintermann 11mo agoOn the other hand, this way you know they probably didn't use the chatbot to write the apology.
- elwebmaster 11mo agoOf course, since we live in 1984 already everything is edited as is convenient. For all that technology has given, nobody talks about what it has taken away.