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I'm not sure why they'd try so hard to keep bots from paying them anyway. If someone wants to write a bot that constantly pays me good money I'm fine with that.
by autoexec 11mo ago
I'm not sure why they'd try so hard to keep bots from paying them anyway. If someone wants to write a bot that constantly pays me good money I'm fine with that. I might rate limit it if the stream of payments coming in can't cover the cost of keeping the server from being DoS'd, but that's not going to inconvenience a human trying to submit a payment one time.
- bmacho 11mo ago[deleted]
- mjhay 11mo agoIs there a problem with fraudsters donating to OSS projects?
- dietr1ch 11mo agoWell fraudsters need to have their time in sync for their business right? Who are you to deny their donations?
- johnisgood 11mo agoMoney is money. How do you know the cash you are using is not "blood money"? Come on.
- op7 11mo agoThen when too many of the fradulent payments get charged back then your payment processor drops you
- michaelt 11mo agoSure, chargebacks cost money. You know what else costs money? When someone wants to give you money, and you misidentify them as a bot and refuse their money.
- Akronymus 11mo agoWith donations being blocked you keep sitting at 0, with chargebacks you can actually go negative, in a potentially unbounded way.
- zinekeller 11mo agoI really hope that the sole reason that michaelt concluded this is simply due on not having any experience how to manage credit card payments (on merchant's side). For those who does not handle these things: I am not sure on what processor Network Time Foundation is using, but Stripe's $15 fee is actually on the low side of chargebacks (some processors even use the fixed fee + percentage model). Worse, this is unconditional: if you somehow won this, you won't get the chargeback fee.
- bawolff 11mo agoYeah, but one probably costs more money then the other, and it seems plausible its the chargebacks.
- JimDabell 11mo agoIf you have small payments that can be made by bots easily, then your service can be used by thieves as an oracle to determine which of their stolen credit card numbers still work. Then you get lots of chargebacks to deal with.
- slv77 11mo agoBots use sites like this to validate lists of stolen cards with low dollar donations to validate the cards before using them on the target site. Without some one of protection sites like these are quickly flooded with fraudulent transactions and then fined and shut down by Visa and Mastercard.
- lapsis_beeftech 11mo agoThis sounds like a problem where cryptocurrency could actually be the solution. Next time I want to make a charitable donation I will ask for an XMR address to preserve my privacy and work around commercial payment processor issues.
- lez 11mo agoI was thinking the same. Seems HN is now pro-bank and anti-cryptocurrency.
- FabHK 11mo agoHN is anti-nonsense, anti-hype, anti-crime, so, yeah, pretty anti-cryptocurrency.
- dlahoda 11mo agountil one's society started to collapse, one does not think crypto is good
- mynameisash 11mo agoWhen society collapses, will we still have reliable infrastructure (internet and electricity, to be specific) on which cryptocurrency depends?
- dlahoda 11mo agoanother one from high trust stable place. glad for you being there. have you heard about decentralization? society is not civilization. local vs global.
- jacquesm 11mo agoThat's because the bots will use such services to 'taste' cards to see if they work. Then if they do the criminals can resell them for a higher value than for which they bought them for.