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It’s a descision everyone makes, in almost all cases (okay, maybe only in few mobile app cases) "ownable" alternatives exist. > You don’t really own your apps,

by Semaphor 11mo ago

It’s a descision everyone makes, in almost all cases (okay, maybe only in few mobile app cases) "ownable" alternatives exist. > You don’t really own your apps, your music, or even your tools anymore This is the more general statement, once again, alternatives exist. I own almost all my apps and tools, and 100% of my music. Either because they are free, or because I bought them. Sometimes I’d would be easier to go the other way, but it’s still (mostly) a choice.

ferrouswheel 11mo ago
They exist, and then they become subscription only. That is literally what the post is about.
- lukan 11mo ago
  If I have FLAC or mp3 files, they cannot become a subscription. If I have a working binary that does not need internet, it cannot become a subscription. If I have invested in making open source solutions work, then I can also figure out ways to continue to own my tools, even if the company goes the subscription way.
  - ferrouswheel 11mo ago
    Guess you haven't downloaded any self-updating executables then? They are very annoying.
    - whstl 11mo ago
      Or executables that check silently for a server and pretend to be transparent but really aren't. Very common with music production apps.
    - lukan 11mo ago
      Yes I have, but was talking about that: "binary that does not need internet"
  - rpdillon 11mo ago
    Yes, you can snapshot your entire life and try to have it be isolated from online. I know because I do this all the time, but the reality is the world moves forward, and the point of the post is that the trend is towards these customer hostile patterns and away from ownership. As someone focused on digital sovereignty, I very much notice this trend, so I think the point is valid.
    - lukan 11mo ago
      Oh for sure. I struggle with keeping my offline workable music collection up to date vs just using spotify. But the pain point of not having music with no internet (the laughable limited option of spotify "download" does not count) is strong enough for me to do it regulary. (Also I like working offline when I can. Less distractions.)
  - bitwize 11mo ago
    > If I have a working binary that does not need internet, it cannot become a subscription. Pluton chip and signature/attestation requirements have entered the chat.

ferrouswheel 11mo ago

They exist, and then they become subscription only. That is literally what the post is about.

lukan 11mo ago
If I have FLAC or mp3 files, they cannot become a subscription. If I have a working binary that does not need internet, it cannot become a subscription. If I have invested in making open source solutions work, then I can also figure out ways to continue to own my tools, even if the company goes the subscription way.
- ferrouswheel 11mo ago
  Guess you haven't downloaded any self-updating executables then? They are very annoying.
  - whstl 11mo ago
    Or executables that check silently for a server and pretend to be transparent but really aren't. Very common with music production apps.
  - lukan 11mo ago
    Yes I have, but was talking about that: "binary that does not need internet"
- rpdillon 11mo ago
  Yes, you can snapshot your entire life and try to have it be isolated from online. I know because I do this all the time, but the reality is the world moves forward, and the point of the post is that the trend is towards these customer hostile patterns and away from ownership. As someone focused on digital sovereignty, I very much notice this trend, so I think the point is valid.
  - lukan 11mo ago
    Oh for sure. I struggle with keeping my offline workable music collection up to date vs just using spotify. But the pain point of not having music with no internet (the laughable limited option of spotify "download" does not count) is strong enough for me to do it regulary. (Also I like working offline when I can. Less distractions.)
- bitwize 11mo ago
  > If I have a working binary that does not need internet, it cannot become a subscription. Pluton chip and signature/attestation requirements have entered the chat.