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All those date pickers that don't give you the ability to type a date in as plain text just plain suck. Airline websites are particularly awful for this. I ma

All those date pickers that don't give you the ability to type a date in as plain text just plain suck. Airline websites are particularly awful for this. I made a C# datepicker a long time ago that allows both textual and gui input. Anything parseable as a date is accepted in the text field - it even recognizes partial strings like "3/23" for March 23. I used to create software for rapid data entry, so I know a thing or two about efficient UI. Maybe I should open-source it.

dotancohen 1y ago
What date is 3/9 in your date picker? I'm willing to bet it's not the date I'm thinking of. Everyone in my country uses the date format I just typed, to mean the date that I'm thinking of: Guveq bs Frcgrzore (rot13)
- rkagerer 1y ago
  User pretty quickly recognize the picker accepts day & month. The ordering is adaptable to locale, and context can be provided to the control as to whether to favor past/closest/future occurrences (eg. bookeeping arrears vs planning future calendar event). Year can always be included if the users wants to be unambiguous. I'm not familiar with the special 3/9 thing, but if you're serious that the behavior is something you think users in your locale would expect, then it wouldn't be hard to override the handler on a project using the picker and implement that.
  - sevenseacat 1y ago
    meaning, is it September 3rd or March 9th (or something else entirely?)
    - dotancohen 1y ago
      Exactly my point
  - watwut 1y ago
    > The ordering is adaptable to locale This means that as a user, I have to toss a coin. The special 3/9 thing us that it can be either 9 March or 3 September. User locale is only loosely related to how user actually wants to have it or even assume to have it.
    - rkagerer 1y ago
      I should have clarified, by adaptable to locale I meant you have control via configuration. The developer can supply a default or even lock it down. E.g. Users of the last app I built incorporating it always expected M/D and the app operated on a kiosk, so that's how we did it. If no initial configuration is provided, the default does feed from the date format set up in the system locale settings. I agree in practice that's not always guaranteed to reflect what the user wants, but it is the intended spot the OS provides for configuring this and is usually the best source for a default: https://i.imgur.com/KShFPtb.png https://i.imgur.com/KShFPtb.png If the developer hasn't locked it down, it's easy for a user to override (either via a setting exposed in the app - which you could even attach to a toggle right in the input field's context menu if you'd like, or via a config file / registry setting). I missed the rot13 thing, and thought "Guveq bs Frcgrzore" referred to some kind of unique cultural event where dotancohen came from (like if I referred to 9/11 in the USA, or typed in "Thanksgiving"). Finally, you could also just type "Mar 9" for a one-off - or use the dropped-down GUI instead of typing anything in the box at all, if keying is not for you.
      - dotancohen 11mo ago
        I've often wondered if Polish and rot13 English have similar letter frequency distribution.

dotancohen 1y ago

What date is 3/9 in your date picker? I'm willing to bet it's not the date I'm thinking of. Everyone in my country uses the date format I just typed, to mean the date that I'm thinking of: Guveq bs Frcgrzore (rot13)

rkagerer 1y ago
User pretty quickly recognize the picker accepts day & month. The ordering is adaptable to locale, and context can be provided to the control as to whether to favor past/closest/future occurrences (eg. bookeeping arrears vs planning future calendar event). Year can always be included if the users wants to be unambiguous. I'm not familiar with the special 3/9 thing, but if you're serious that the behavior is something you think users in your locale would expect, then it wouldn't be hard to override the handler on a project using the picker and implement that.
- sevenseacat 1y ago
  meaning, is it September 3rd or March 9th (or something else entirely?)
  - dotancohen 1y ago
    Exactly my point
- watwut 1y ago
  > The ordering is adaptable to locale This means that as a user, I have to toss a coin. The special 3/9 thing us that it can be either 9 March or 3 September. User locale is only loosely related to how user actually wants to have it or even assume to have it.
  - rkagerer 1y ago
    I should have clarified, by adaptable to locale I meant you have control via configuration. The developer can supply a default or even lock it down. E.g. Users of the last app I built incorporating it always expected M/D and the app operated on a kiosk, so that's how we did it. If no initial configuration is provided, the default does feed from the date format set up in the system locale settings. I agree in practice that's not always guaranteed to reflect what the user wants, but it is the intended spot the OS provides for configuring this and is usually the best source for a default: https://i.imgur.com/KShFPtb.png https://i.imgur.com/KShFPtb.png If the developer hasn't locked it down, it's easy for a user to override (either via a setting exposed in the app - which you could even attach to a toggle right in the input field's context menu if you'd like, or via a config file / registry setting). I missed the rot13 thing, and thought "Guveq bs Frcgrzore" referred to some kind of unique cultural event where dotancohen came from (like if I referred to 9/11 in the USA, or typed in "Thanksgiving"). Finally, you could also just type "Mar 9" for a one-off - or use the dropped-down GUI instead of typing anything in the box at all, if keying is not for you.
    - dotancohen 11mo ago
      I've often wondered if Polish and rot13 English have similar letter frequency distribution.