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100% agree. I don't blame anyone for not trusting the government. Anyone who's read (or lived) history and with a rational mind would scrutinize every single t

100% agree. I don't blame anyone for not trusting the government. Anyone who's read (or lived) history and with a rational mind would scrutinize every single thing coming from them, particularly if their health is involved. Another thing that doesn't help, but this is almost exclusively a memerican problem, is that people enjoy polarizing these issues to their absolute extremes. Things are either vantablack or HDR-white. And if you happen to be on the other end "you should die or go to prison". Chill. It's OK to question things.

fabian2k 1y ago
You don't have to trust the government. There are plenty of institutions that can explain the value of vaccinations. If you only distrust your own government, just look at the recommendations in other countries.
- 9rx 1y ago
  That's the problem, though. It is those other countries that the pro-nationalist movement, where a lot of this stems from, don't trust. Things like worldwide consensus on the need for vaccinations are seen as an attempt to subvert their own nation.
gtirloni 1y ago
So after all this scrutinizing, they come to the conclusion vaccines don't work? Like, we the vaccine experts doing web searches and trusting social media posts from unknowns? Not the people that actually do work with it like scientists? Super interesting conclusion.
- moralestapia 1y ago
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  - gtirloni 1y ago
    Have you come to the conclusion that vaccines don't work though? If not, what's even your point replying to me?
    - moralestapia 1y ago
      >Have you come to the conclusion that vaccines don't work though? Yes. A bug chunk of them don't work or do more harm than good. Hence why the need for clinical trials.
      - gtirloni 1y ago
        Of course, we're not talking about experimental vaccines in labs. I think it's pretty clear everyone here is talking about FDA-approved vaccines that reach the population. The fact you want to argue this shows a severe lack of reading comprehension.
energy123 1y ago
The effectiveness of vaccines has nothing to do with what a government says or does.
moralestapia 1y ago
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fabian2k 1y ago

You don't have to trust the government. There are plenty of institutions that can explain the value of vaccinations. If you only distrust your own government, just look at the recommendations in other countries.

9rx 1y ago
That's the problem, though. It is those other countries that the pro-nationalist movement, where a lot of this stems from, don't trust. Things like worldwide consensus on the need for vaccinations are seen as an attempt to subvert their own nation.

gtirloni 1y ago

So after all this scrutinizing, they come to the conclusion vaccines don't work? Like, we the vaccine experts doing web searches and trusting social media posts from unknowns? Not the people that actually do work with it like scientists? Super interesting conclusion.

moralestapia 1y ago
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- gtirloni 1y ago
  Have you come to the conclusion that vaccines don't work though? If not, what's even your point replying to me?
  - moralestapia 1y ago
    >Have you come to the conclusion that vaccines don't work though? Yes. A bug chunk of them don't work or do more harm than good. Hence why the need for clinical trials.
    - gtirloni 1y ago
      Of course, we're not talking about experimental vaccines in labs. I think it's pretty clear everyone here is talking about FDA-approved vaccines that reach the population. The fact you want to argue this shows a severe lack of reading comprehension.

energy123 1y ago

The effectiveness of vaccines has nothing to do with what a government says or does.

moralestapia 1y ago

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