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Okay bacteria now do nuclear waste

HPsquared 1y ago
We already have radiotrophic fungus, found near Chernobyl. Interestingly they appear to use melanin to absorb and utilise energy from the radiation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiotrophic_fungus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiotrophic_fungus
- mrweasel 1y ago
  It doesn't really eat the nuclear waste, it "just" feeds on the radioactive energi, so it doesn't speed up the decay. But you can use them as a radiation shield.
  - mrguyorama 1y ago
    As far as I know you cannot speed up the decay, unless you put it in a particle accelerator and bombard it into something with a much faster half life? Not exactly a scalable solution.
    - miohtama 1y ago
      We just need particle accelerator mushrooms
andrewflnr 1y ago
That just gives you radioactive bacteria who might crawl around a bit and spread the radioactivity. You can't get rid of a nuclear problem by chemistry.
- ltbarcly3 1y ago
  You are correct, of course, but in a sci-fi scenario maybe you could have a colony of fungi that move nuclear material around internally to keep it 'hot', thus 'burn it off' faster to extract energy. It might collect material from a wide area.
  - lgats 1y ago
    Heat doesn't impact radioactive decay, though the sci-fi fungi could have some internal neutron reflectors that may make something interesting happen
    - ltbarcly3 1y ago
      Well you misunderstood but also you aren't correct. Hot is commonly used to mean radioactive. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_particle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_particle One mode of radioactive decay is electron capture, which is absolutely impacted by temperature (just mentioning this as trivia, I meant hot-as-in-radioactive).
      - andrewflnr 1y ago
        Moving around radioactive material doesn't affect its activity, unless you're specifically talking about collecting it into a near-critical mass or something like that. Presumably that's what GP was thinking about wrt neutron reflectors. And I'm pretty sure that only works even in principle if the isotope in question can be stimulated into activity by absorbing neutrons (or other radiation I suppose), which is not the case for all of them. Bio-accumulating a critical mass of radioactive material ion by ion... well, it sure is sci-fi.
ltbarcly3 1y ago
Things happily eat nuclear waste. This is one of the big problems with nuclear waste, your body will happily integrate radioactive isotopes or heavy metals, which then slowly kill you.

We already have radiotrophic fungus, found near Chernobyl. Interestingly they appear to use melanin to absorb and utilise energy from the radiation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiotrophic_fungus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiotrophic_fungus

mrweasel 1y ago
It doesn't really eat the nuclear waste, it "just" feeds on the radioactive energi, so it doesn't speed up the decay. But you can use them as a radiation shield.
- mrguyorama 1y ago
  As far as I know you cannot speed up the decay, unless you put it in a particle accelerator and bombard it into something with a much faster half life? Not exactly a scalable solution.
  - miohtama 1y ago
    We just need particle accelerator mushrooms

andrewflnr 1y ago

That just gives you radioactive bacteria who might crawl around a bit and spread the radioactivity. You can't get rid of a nuclear problem by chemistry.

ltbarcly3 1y ago
You are correct, of course, but in a sci-fi scenario maybe you could have a colony of fungi that move nuclear material around internally to keep it 'hot', thus 'burn it off' faster to extract energy. It might collect material from a wide area.
- lgats 1y ago
  Heat doesn't impact radioactive decay, though the sci-fi fungi could have some internal neutron reflectors that may make something interesting happen
  - ltbarcly3 1y ago
    Well you misunderstood but also you aren't correct. Hot is commonly used to mean radioactive. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_particle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_particle One mode of radioactive decay is electron capture, which is absolutely impacted by temperature (just mentioning this as trivia, I meant hot-as-in-radioactive).
    - andrewflnr 1y ago
      Moving around radioactive material doesn't affect its activity, unless you're specifically talking about collecting it into a near-critical mass or something like that. Presumably that's what GP was thinking about wrt neutron reflectors. And I'm pretty sure that only works even in principle if the isotope in question can be stimulated into activity by absorbing neutrons (or other radiation I suppose), which is not the case for all of them. Bio-accumulating a critical mass of radioactive material ion by ion... well, it sure is sci-fi.

ltbarcly3 1y ago

Things happily eat nuclear waste. This is one of the big problems with nuclear waste, your body will happily integrate radioactive isotopes or heavy metals, which then slowly kill you.