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And as someone who is part of those conservation communities that scan 35mm with donations to keep the existing look, a lot of the people doing those projects a

by sersi 11mo ago

And as someone who is part of those conservation communities that scan 35mm with donations to keep the existing look, a lot of the people doing those projects are aware of this. They do some color adjustment to compensate for print fading, for the type of bulb that were used in movie theatres back then (using a LUT), etc... I do find that often enough commercial releases like Aladdin or other movies like Terminator 2 are done lazily and have completely different colors than what was historically shown. I think part of this is the fact that studios don't necessarily recognise the importance of that legacy and don't want to spend money on it.

faeyanpiraat 11mo ago
Whats wrong with terminator 2? Are there like multiple digital releases, one with better colour than the other?
- Cthulhu_ 11mo ago
  There's a 4K version out that does interesting things with colour grading, here's a post I found: https://www.reddit.com/r/Terminator/comments/d65pbi/terminator_2_4k_has_terrible_colors_disappointment/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Terminator/comments/d65pbi/terminat.... The one on the left is the remaster. There was similar outrage (if that's the right word) about a Matrix remaster that either added or removed a green color filter, and there's several other examples where they did a Thing with colour grading / filtering in a remaster.
  - IlikeKitties 11mo ago
    There's multiple versions of the Matrix on the trackers and the internet that I know of. The official release all look kinda different to each other: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mhZ-13HqLQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mhZ-13HqLQ There's a 35mm scan floating around from a faded copy with really weird colors sometimes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow1KDYc9XsE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow1KDYc9XsE And there's an Open Matte Version, which I don't know the Origin of. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2eCmhBgsyI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2eCmhBgsyI For me, it's the Open Matte that I consider the ultimate best version.
  - bityard 11mo ago
    To me, that just looks like what happens when I try to play HDR content on a system that doesn't know about HDR. (It looks like you're watching it through sunglasses.)
    - HelloMcFly 11mo ago
      I own the blu-ray of The Terminator 2, and briefly owned the 4k as well. The 4k looks like dogshit, with or without HDR enabled. This is largely due to the film using DNR to remove film grain, which they did for the 4k transfer was created for the 2017 3D release (film grain is bad in 3D I guess). The transfer is also much, much more blue.
    - boulos 11mo ago
      That is precisely what this one was. The OP posted a follow-up comment at https://www.reddit.com/r/Terminator/comments/d65pbi/comment/f0veom5/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Terminator/comments/d65pbi/comment/...: > I have an updated, I found out that T2 4K is an HDR movie that needs to be played with MadVR and enable HDR on the TV itself, now the colors are correct and I took a new screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/KTOn3Bw.jpg https://i.imgur.com/KTOn3Bw.jpg > However when the TV is in HDR mode the 4K looks 100% correct, but when seeing the screenshot with HDR off then the screenshot looks still a bit wrong, here is a screenshot with correct colors: https://i.imgur.com/KTOn3Bw.jpg https://i.imgur.com/KTOn3Bw.jpg

by sersi 11mo ago

faeyanpiraat 11mo ago

Whats wrong with terminator 2? Are there like multiple digital releases, one with better colour than the other?

Cthulhu_ 11mo ago
There's a 4K version out that does interesting things with colour grading, here's a post I found: https://www.reddit.com/r/Terminator/comments/d65pbi/terminator_2_4k_has_terrible_colors_disappointment/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Terminator/comments/d65pbi/terminat.... The one on the left is the remaster. There was similar outrage (if that's the right word) about a Matrix remaster that either added or removed a green color filter, and there's several other examples where they did a Thing with colour grading / filtering in a remaster.
- IlikeKitties 11mo ago
  There's multiple versions of the Matrix on the trackers and the internet that I know of. The official release all look kinda different to each other: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mhZ-13HqLQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mhZ-13HqLQ There's a 35mm scan floating around from a faded copy with really weird colors sometimes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow1KDYc9XsE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow1KDYc9XsE And there's an Open Matte Version, which I don't know the Origin of. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2eCmhBgsyI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2eCmhBgsyI For me, it's the Open Matte that I consider the ultimate best version.
- bityard 11mo ago
  To me, that just looks like what happens when I try to play HDR content on a system that doesn't know about HDR. (It looks like you're watching it through sunglasses.)
  - HelloMcFly 11mo ago
    I own the blu-ray of The Terminator 2, and briefly owned the 4k as well. The 4k looks like dogshit, with or without HDR enabled. This is largely due to the film using DNR to remove film grain, which they did for the 4k transfer was created for the 2017 3D release (film grain is bad in 3D I guess). The transfer is also much, much more blue.
  - boulos 11mo ago
    That is precisely what this one was. The OP posted a follow-up comment at https://www.reddit.com/r/Terminator/comments/d65pbi/comment/f0veom5/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Terminator/comments/d65pbi/comment/...: > I have an updated, I found out that T2 4K is an HDR movie that needs to be played with MadVR and enable HDR on the TV itself, now the colors are correct and I took a new screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/KTOn3Bw.jpg https://i.imgur.com/KTOn3Bw.jpg > However when the TV is in HDR mode the 4K looks 100% correct, but when seeing the screenshot with HDR off then the screenshot looks still a bit wrong, here is a screenshot with correct colors: https://i.imgur.com/KTOn3Bw.jpg https://i.imgur.com/KTOn3Bw.jpg