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This is dumb. Every fast food meal you eat was prepared by someone having a miserable time. Guess what, theyd be more miserable without the job. Getting stuff d
by HDThoreaun 1y ago
This is dumb. Every fast food meal you eat was prepared by someone having a miserable time. Guess what, theyd be more miserable without the job. Getting stuff done is what benefits humans, not feel good jobs.
- zeofig 1y agoOne of the reasons I try to avoid fast food and indeed everything.
- HDThoreaun 1y agoI really don’t see how this helps the fast food workers. When less people eat their food they lose jobs and become even more miserable. Sure if you hire them as a private chef you’re helping them out but if just cook yourself you haven’t done a thing to improve their life.
- zeofig 1y agoYou're right. I'll send them some thoughts and prayers too.
- feisty0630 1y agoIt's not "dumb", you're just presenting a steelman that directly contradicts what the person you're replying to wrote. You might indeed be shocked to find that not everyone consumes fast food.
- JustExAWS 1y agoDid the people who worked on the farm to grow and harvest your food enjoy it?
- feisty0630 1y agoAre you seriously and earnestly arguing that harm-minimisation is useless and we should all just open the human-suffering throttle, or did you just not think that far ahead? I am hoping the latter. Being foolish is far more temporary a condition than being cruel.
- JustExAWS 1y agoHow are you “minimizing harm” by pearl clutching about not eating fast food? The front line people you are interacting with at the fast food restaurant or the grocery store have it easiest in the chain of events that it takes food to get to you. Do you think that fast food workers have it harder than the people at the grocery store?
- feisty0630 1y ago0.8*harm < 0.81*harm - hope this helps! Also, the core point is about people being able to find meaning in their work. That you've decided to laser in on this specific point to go on a tangent of whattaboutism is largely irrelevant. Have a nice day.
- raw_anon_1111 1y agoThe fact is that most of the 3-4 billion+ people on earth don’t “find meaning in their work” and they only work because they haven’t overcome their addiction to food and shelter. If the point was irrelevant to your argument, why make it?
- feisty0630 1y agoI didn't actually make the point initially. I was challenging the reply's point that: a) just because some people are miserable at work, doesn't mean we shouldn't care that other people might become miserable at work b) Someone saying they prefer their food to be made without suffering is clearly a hypocrite in all cases because... there are miserable people in fast food jobs? I mean... really. Come on now.
- CSSer 1y agoWhat strikes me about this exchange is no one is talking about the money. In the past, you could do either and no one had to care except you. Now a lot of jobs that people could find fulfilling aren't because the economy is so distorted, so how are we supposed to honestly look at this? I guess let's walk these people off the plank and get this over with...
- cgriswald 1y agoHave you worked fast food? I have and I loved it.
- Sabinus 1y agoWhat percentage of fast food workers would you say are loving it?
- cgriswald 1y agoMore than 0%.
- ribosometronome 1y agoMore than 1%?
- cgriswald 1y agoHere is the original claim: > Every fast food meal you eat was prepared by someone having a miserable time. If you want more data, then maybe ask the one making the claim for his data instead and subtract it from 100%?
- HDThoreaun 1y agoYes, it was miserable.