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> but I think the fact that the term "AI slop" has become so commonplace reflects a bias (generally) against AI-generated content. Is that just because we are

> but I think the fact that the term "AI slop" has become so commonplace reflects a bias (generally) against AI-generated content. Is that just because we are at the very beginning stages of the technology, though? It is just going to keep getting better, will the bias against AI generated content remain? I know people like to talk as if AI will always have the quality issues it has now, but I wouldn't count on that.

emp17344 1y ago
Is it going to get better? Because people have been saying that for years now, and while AI output is somewhat improved, many of the issues with it have not changed.
rsynnott 1y ago
I'm not convinced that AI image generation _is_ getting better at this point. If anything, it seems to be getting somewhat weirder-looking. Like, I gather that prompt adherence has improved somewhat, but the actual output still looks _very_ off.
- captainkrtek 1y ago
  I think still images have improved remarkably, though some things still look off for people (they look too-flawless). Whereas video suffers from the strange fluidity and unnatural motion of things.
  - rsynnott 1y ago
    > though some things still look off for people (they look too-flawless) I think _maybe_ there's an uncanny valley problem (and it may vary person to person). I found Stable Diffusion 1.5's output quite _bad_, say, but not as, I dunno, objectionable and wrong-looking as current models. Video has always been a complete mess, remains a complete mess, I don't see any real path towards it not being a complete mess. It is, in fairness, a _much_ harder problem.
    - captainkrtek 1y ago
      Agreed. I've also found the proliferation of "AI film director" created "films" funny. The output is a strung together set of 2-3 second clips telling some story. The characters changing between clips, the scenery changing drastically, etc. There is nothing cohesive. I imagine its a similar "context window"-like problem, if you have to keep many minutes of visual context.

emp17344 1y ago

Is it going to get better? Because people have been saying that for years now, and while AI output is somewhat improved, many of the issues with it have not changed.

rsynnott 1y ago

I'm not convinced that AI image generation _is_ getting better at this point. If anything, it seems to be getting somewhat weirder-looking. Like, I gather that prompt adherence has improved somewhat, but the actual output still looks _very_ off.

captainkrtek 1y ago
I think still images have improved remarkably, though some things still look off for people (they look too-flawless). Whereas video suffers from the strange fluidity and unnatural motion of things.
- rsynnott 1y ago
  > though some things still look off for people (they look too-flawless) I think _maybe_ there's an uncanny valley problem (and it may vary person to person). I found Stable Diffusion 1.5's output quite _bad_, say, but not as, I dunno, objectionable and wrong-looking as current models. Video has always been a complete mess, remains a complete mess, I don't see any real path towards it not being a complete mess. It is, in fairness, a _much_ harder problem.
  - captainkrtek 1y ago
    Agreed. I've also found the proliferation of "AI film director" created "films" funny. The output is a strung together set of 2-3 second clips telling some story. The characters changing between clips, the scenery changing drastically, etc. There is nothing cohesive. I imagine its a similar "context window"-like problem, if you have to keep many minutes of visual context.