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> There is no “cloud,” just someone else's computer The EFF are quoting Stallman now? I wonder if they're slowly coming to realize that yes, once again, Stallm

> There is no “cloud,” just someone else's computer The EFF are quoting Stallman now? I wonder if they're slowly coming to realize that yes, once again, Stallman was right.

stonogo 1y ago
I don't think that meme originated with Stallman.
integralid 1y ago
Is there any reason to suspect EFF believes stallman was not right? I remember they opposed his reelection to FSF in 2021, but that was about his alleged misconduct, not his views on software (in fact they said they believe in FAF mission importance)
- ekjhgkejhgk 1y ago
  Nah, just gossip. I remember an interview with Linus Torvals where he expressed that he thought that some elements at FSF were sleezy (he didn't say or insinuate Stallman) or maybe dishonest, I don't remember exactly, due to GPLv3. He said "I understand what they're trying to do, but it should be a different license, not a new version of the same license". And then he finished with the comment "If you want to support I'd send my money to the EFF instead if I were you", which gave me the impression that there was some tension between the EFF and the FSF. That's it. But Stallman WAS right about basically everything though.
wiredpancake 1y ago
Stallman was right about a number of free and open source software things, although he is a disgusting person for his comments around the Jeffery Epstien situation and his views on minors...
- ekjhgkejhgk 1y ago
  I suggest that you search and read the actual things he said in the "stallman report". Not the summaries from the author.
- asacrowflies 1y ago
  I love stalman and these blatant bullying tactics with obvious lies and bullshit meant to have an emotional reaction short circuit any actual rational read. The stalman controversy is the text book example of bullying an autistic person with semantics. Seen the same shit since grade school.
lunias 1y ago
And I'm here for it. "The cloud" is one of the most obvious, misleading rebrands of all time.

> There is no “cloud,” just someone else's computer The EFF are quoting Stallman now? I wonder if they're slowly coming to realize that yes, once again, Stallman was right.

stonogo 1y ago

I don't think that meme originated with Stallman.

integralid 1y ago

Is there any reason to suspect EFF believes stallman was not right? I remember they opposed his reelection to FSF in 2021, but that was about his alleged misconduct, not his views on software (in fact they said they believe in FAF mission importance)

ekjhgkejhgk 1y ago
Nah, just gossip. I remember an interview with Linus Torvals where he expressed that he thought that some elements at FSF were sleezy (he didn't say or insinuate Stallman) or maybe dishonest, I don't remember exactly, due to GPLv3. He said "I understand what they're trying to do, but it should be a different license, not a new version of the same license". And then he finished with the comment "If you want to support I'd send my money to the EFF instead if I were you", which gave me the impression that there was some tension between the EFF and the FSF. That's it. But Stallman WAS right about basically everything though.

wiredpancake 1y ago

Stallman was right about a number of free and open source software things, although he is a disgusting person for his comments around the Jeffery Epstien situation and his views on minors...

ekjhgkejhgk 1y ago
I suggest that you search and read the actual things he said in the "stallman report". Not the summaries from the author.
asacrowflies 1y ago
I love stalman and these blatant bullying tactics with obvious lies and bullshit meant to have an emotional reaction short circuit any actual rational read. The stalman controversy is the text book example of bullying an autistic person with semantics. Seen the same shit since grade school.

lunias 1y ago

And I'm here for it. "The cloud" is one of the most obvious, misleading rebrands of all time.