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> but it's just so easy to fall into nationalistic prattle instead of fixing the real problem. Right. This, right now, is 100% a UK problem. De-Americanising y

> but it's just so easy to fall into nationalistic prattle instead of fixing the real problem. Right. This, right now, is 100% a UK problem. De-Americanising your tech stack isn't going to fix the political issues domestically. Hence Apple pulling ADP out, they made the choice of not complying with the UK and not offering the service instead of compromising the service for everyone else in the world. UK citizens need to direct their attention inwards against their own government.

denkmoon 1y ago
Oh yes, the UK is very keen on Reform. Reform in this case however is the death rattle of a long dead empire.
- rounce 1y ago
  “Death rattle”? More like “zombie groan”.
ungreased0675 1y ago
Last time I was in the UK, the news (BBC) was bizarrely 90% American politics. Trump this, Trump did that, etc. People there knew American politicians better than the people who actually represent them.
- 978689757846 1y ago
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- 1over137 1y ago
  Why “bizarrely”? The US has enormous influence on many countries, Trump’s actions are newsworthy in many places.
  - lintfordpickle 1y ago
    If the UK news is made up of 90% US politics, and 10% UK politics, then I would say that is definitely bizarre.
    - foldr 1y ago
      Here is the BBC news website: https://bbc.co.uk/news https://bbc.co.uk/news It is not 90% American politics.
- subscribed 1y ago
  Trump is a chum with Farage, far right con man and Putin's buddy. For the reasons unknown BBC is *massively* promoting and platforming far right in the last few times (airtime, framing of the events, promoting party lines as facts, etc). So Trump in the BBC might be considered beneficial to the far right. This would explain it.
alt227 1y ago
> Right. This, right now, is 100% a UK problem. Do you not think every other govenrment in the world is currently eyeing this up and figuring out how to do the same thing?
- port11 1y ago
  Scary stuff: they've just handed the EU a reason to go after ADP. Turns out no back door is needed, you just force their position into making ADP unavailable in the EU.
  - alt227 1y ago
    I still believe that 5 eyes organised this, but the UK drew the short straw and had to be the guinea pig.
- NetMageSCW 1y ago
  That is just borrowing trouble that hasn’t arisen.

denkmoon 1y ago

Oh yes, the UK is very keen on Reform. Reform in this case however is the death rattle of a long dead empire.

rounce 1y ago
“Death rattle”? More like “zombie groan”.

ungreased0675 1y ago

Last time I was in the UK, the news (BBC) was bizarrely 90% American politics. Trump this, Trump did that, etc. People there knew American politicians better than the people who actually represent them.

978689757846 1y ago
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1over137 1y ago
Why “bizarrely”? The US has enormous influence on many countries, Trump’s actions are newsworthy in many places.
- lintfordpickle 1y ago
  If the UK news is made up of 90% US politics, and 10% UK politics, then I would say that is definitely bizarre.
  - foldr 1y ago
    Here is the BBC news website: https://bbc.co.uk/news https://bbc.co.uk/news It is not 90% American politics.
subscribed 1y ago
Trump is a chum with Farage, far right con man and Putin's buddy. For the reasons unknown BBC is *massively* promoting and platforming far right in the last few times (airtime, framing of the events, promoting party lines as facts, etc). So Trump in the BBC might be considered beneficial to the far right. This would explain it.

alt227 1y ago

> Right. This, right now, is 100% a UK problem. Do you not think every other govenrment in the world is currently eyeing this up and figuring out how to do the same thing?

port11 1y ago
Scary stuff: they've just handed the EU a reason to go after ADP. Turns out no back door is needed, you just force their position into making ADP unavailable in the EU.
- alt227 1y ago
  I still believe that 5 eyes organised this, but the UK drew the short straw and had to be the guinea pig.
NetMageSCW 1y ago
That is just borrowing trouble that hasn’t arisen.