> As one MS Director put it out of frustration: "We do test, a lot. Our testers are called endusers. That's it." This is true since at least Win 95. One usuall

> As one MS Director put it out of frustration: "We do test, a lot. Our testers are called endusers. That's it." This is true since at least Win 95. One usually needed to wait until SP2 to get a resemblance of quality from Microsoft. Now, since Vista, they got rid of ServicePacks. This says a lot about their quality culture.