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E2EE cloud storage is not some kind of magic that only tech bigcorps can provide. I de-Dropboxed a few years ago, replacing it with Syncthing running on a local

by caconym_ 11mo ago

E2EE cloud storage is not some kind of magic that only tech bigcorps can provide. I de-Dropboxed a few years ago, replacing it with Syncthing running on a local NAS with e2ee backups in Backblaze and Wireguard VPN out to my mobile devices. Sure, this is not the sort of thing most people can set up for themselves, but I don't think that's particularly relevant in context.

aucisson_masque 11mo ago
Syncthing and e2e is great but the issue is that the law force you to give away your phone and your password if asked. Meaning, they have the encrypted data on your phone and the password to unlock it.. same for computer ofc. If you're in England and have to keep things secured (including from government eyes), i have no idea how you can do. They soon will be allowed to put a camera in your small room and watch you take a dump.
- sayamqazi 11mo ago
  Memorize a long passphrase for encryption, dont keep it anywhere and when forced to give it up, say "I forgot it". This is partly a joke but only partly.
  - mavhc 11mo ago
    Memorize two passwords and have a hidden volume with the real data in
    - hellojesus 11mo ago
      And have a wipe-password that deletes phone data, etc. when entered.
erpellan 11mo ago
Unfortunately for the vast majority of people, it absolutely is some kind of magic.
- 4ggr0 11mo ago
  it definitely is. talking to non-tech people, even a password manager or adblock extension for a browser are magic. installing a basic OS is magic. freaking debugging something which isn't working is magic. i've had to show people that they have to plug in their HDMI cable into their GPU instead of the motherboard, that they have to manually set the Hz in windows settings. how to install basic drivers. so many more easy examples we IT-workers or nerds just take for granted. taking this to the extreme, my grandma asked me if i could search recipes online for her, because [insert your favorite search service] seemed too complicated. So next to these examples, setting up syncthing with a VPN is next to impossible :( and even if they manage to set it up, good luck when you run into issues after a couple of months.
- caconym_ 11mo ago
  I explicitly addressed this in my comment.

aucisson_masque 11mo ago

Syncthing and e2e is great but the issue is that the law force you to give away your phone and your password if asked. Meaning, they have the encrypted data on your phone and the password to unlock it.. same for computer ofc. If you're in England and have to keep things secured (including from government eyes), i have no idea how you can do. They soon will be allowed to put a camera in your small room and watch you take a dump.

sayamqazi 11mo ago
Memorize a long passphrase for encryption, dont keep it anywhere and when forced to give it up, say "I forgot it". This is partly a joke but only partly.
- mavhc 11mo ago
  Memorize two passwords and have a hidden volume with the real data in
  - hellojesus 11mo ago
    And have a wipe-password that deletes phone data, etc. when entered.

erpellan 11mo ago

Unfortunately for the vast majority of people, it absolutely is some kind of magic.

4ggr0 11mo ago
it definitely is. talking to non-tech people, even a password manager or adblock extension for a browser are magic. installing a basic OS is magic. freaking debugging something which isn't working is magic. i've had to show people that they have to plug in their HDMI cable into their GPU instead of the motherboard, that they have to manually set the Hz in windows settings. how to install basic drivers. so many more easy examples we IT-workers or nerds just take for granted. taking this to the extreme, my grandma asked me if i could search recipes online for her, because [insert your favorite search service] seemed too complicated. So next to these examples, setting up syncthing with a VPN is next to impossible :( and even if they manage to set it up, good luck when you run into issues after a couple of months.
caconym_ 11mo ago
I explicitly addressed this in my comment.