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>To the people at the top, the job market is a statistic. They can't feel empathy on an issue they're so disconnected from, so they just think it's not their pr

by gruez 1y ago

>To the people at the top, the job market is a statistic. They can't feel empathy on an issue they're so disconnected from, so they just think it's not their problem, or there isn't much they can do about it. Who are the "people at the top" you speak of? Are they just an amorphous blob of executives and politicians? >Technological innovation is supposed to mean society can produce more with less work, so in theory everyone's lives could end up better off over time where we could all work less and get more, but in practice, I see more meaningless work created and wealth continues to consolidate at the top. Yes, if you're willing to accept pre-industrial revolution levels of living standards, you can probably get away with hours of work per week with modern technology, but people want iPhones and 5G internet, so they can complain on HN.

saithound 1y ago
> Who are the "people at the top" you speak of? Are they just an amorphous blob of executives and politicians? I don't think you're asking a serious question. What kind of answer would you accept? It's not like you're going to change your mind if they say that e.g. the Cyvorefrx family from Palm Beach is one of the people on the top, right? Nor is this question an effecive rhetorical device to convince onlookers: they'll rightfully ignore it just like people ignord "Who are these Guantanamo Bay torturers you speak of? Are they just an amorphous blob of guards and soldiers?"
- gruez 1y ago
  >I don't think you're asking a serious question. It's not a serious question because the preceding statement wasn't serious either. It's just a vague anti-elite statement. At the very least, it's not the CEO's job to keep unemployment rate low. That's the job of politicians and central bankers. To blame unemployment on "people at the top" shows a fundamental misunderstanding of how society is structured. To take your Guantanamo Bay example, it's like blaming it on terror on "the military industrial complex". Is it vaguely directionally correct? Yeah. Is it a cogent statement? No.
  - tock 1y ago
    But CEOs do influence politicians and central bankers. Heck you have people like Elon openly trying to influence elections in many countries using his money and fame.
terminalshort 1y ago
> Who are the "people at the top" you speak of? "The people richer than me" is typically the meaning here. You here this complaint often even from people in the top 1% of the richest country on earth.
- mikelitoris 1y ago
  What people (like you) don’t understand is the wealth (and power) gap between people even in the 1% and people in the top 0.001 is still absurd.
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mikelitoris 1y ago
> Who are the "people at the top" you speak of? Are they just an amorphous blob of executives and politicians? Look up Bilderberg group

by gruez 1y ago

saithound 1y ago

> Who are the "people at the top" you speak of? Are they just an amorphous blob of executives and politicians? I don't think you're asking a serious question. What kind of answer would you accept? It's not like you're going to change your mind if they say that e.g. the Cyvorefrx family from Palm Beach is one of the people on the top, right? Nor is this question an effecive rhetorical device to convince onlookers: they'll rightfully ignore it just like people ignord "Who are these Guantanamo Bay torturers you speak of? Are they just an amorphous blob of guards and soldiers?"

gruez 1y ago
>I don't think you're asking a serious question. It's not a serious question because the preceding statement wasn't serious either. It's just a vague anti-elite statement. At the very least, it's not the CEO's job to keep unemployment rate low. That's the job of politicians and central bankers. To blame unemployment on "people at the top" shows a fundamental misunderstanding of how society is structured. To take your Guantanamo Bay example, it's like blaming it on terror on "the military industrial complex". Is it vaguely directionally correct? Yeah. Is it a cogent statement? No.
- tock 1y ago
  But CEOs do influence politicians and central bankers. Heck you have people like Elon openly trying to influence elections in many countries using his money and fame.

terminalshort 1y ago

> Who are the "people at the top" you speak of? "The people richer than me" is typically the meaning here. You here this complaint often even from people in the top 1% of the richest country on earth.

mikelitoris 1y ago
What people (like you) don’t understand is the wealth (and power) gap between people even in the 1% and people in the top 0.001 is still absurd.
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mikelitoris 1y ago

> Who are the "people at the top" you speak of? Are they just an amorphous blob of executives and politicians? Look up Bilderberg group