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Perhaps if they had put more resources toward maintaining their water infrastructure instead of spending on their nuclear arms ambitions, funding Hezbollah, Ham
by anonymousiam 1y ago
Perhaps if they had put more resources toward maintaining their water infrastructure instead of spending on their nuclear arms ambitions, funding Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis, etc., they might not have had this problem.
- FpUser 1y agoYou gonna say the same about the consequence of events like Hurricane Katrina? Couple of less nukes, military contracts or whatever and you could have prevented the disaster.
- anonymousiam 1y agoHow do you prevent a hurricane? The failures of responding to the disaster were all at the state/local level.
- drewbeck 1y agoThe failures were not all at the state/local level. The feds also had many issues. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_government_response_to_Hurricane_Katrina https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_government_re...
- FpUser 1y agoYou do not prevent hurricane. But you can prevent fucked up dams, corralling people in stadiums etc. etc. Anyways my point was not really about hurricane.
- BobaFloutist 1y agoI mean yeah, the response to Hurricane Katrina was pretty widely panned.
- droopyEyelids 1y agoYou can trace all their problems back to the 1979 Islamic revolution. If they would have simply kept the Shah as the ruler and stayed a client state to Britain, they wouldn't need to fund any of these militants, and would probably be a friend to western countries.
- lolive 1y ago[flagged]
- bawolff 1y agoWhich one is Norway?
- lolive 1y agoGood question. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/norway-seeks-deeper-security-ties-with-europe-saying-us-relations-uncertain-2025-05-08/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/norway-seeks-deeper-sec...
- panick21_ 1y agoPretty weak argument. Norway has been an oil producer for a long time and recent issues have nothing to do with oil and applies to everybody working with the US. People focus to much on oil in international relation, its a factor but by far not the only one.
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- simonsarris 1y agoThis is an out of date take. Not long after the fracking boom that began in the mid 2000's, The US is now by far the world's largest oil producer. We used to produce less oil than Saudi Arabia, now we produce 66% more. We produce 4x the oil that Iran does. Oil is just not the same geopolitical force that it was in the 80's to 2010. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/oil-production-by-country?country=USA~IRN~SAU https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/oil-production-by-country...
- FpUser 1y agoAnd if my ancient ancestor did not kill that fly we will be travelling to stars now. And why ffs one country should obey the other?
- drewbeck 1y agoGovernments like all institutions are able to do many things at once. Connecting their water problems to the issues you list is essentially a non sequitur absent specific evidence of either/or policy choices.
- bawolff 1y agoGovernments have finite amounts of money. Both of these things (water infrastructure and fighting proxy wars) are capital intensive projects. Its reasonable to conclude less money spent on one would allow more money spent on another. Even without that factor, Attention does matter. Governments can do multiple things, but in more dictatorial regimes, doing things well often require prioritization at the top, and there is a limited number of things the top can prioritize. Its one of the main failings of dictatorships in general: the top is afraid to appoint too competent middle management lest they rise up, so everything becomes very top down managed. Additionally some of the issues causing this seem to be related to corruption in their military, like diverting water in unsustainable ways to support farming projects that have ties to people well connected to irgc. (To be fair, i dont know how true that is, i dont have a good source for that)
- ivell 11mo agoBeing friendly to other nations have benefits such as easy access to latest technology that could help solving the problems.
- Steven420 11mo agoThe US has no ambitions of being friendly with Iran as they are a reason to keep profits rolling in for war profiteers
- nandomrumber 1y agoOn the other hand, one cost effective way of desalinating sea water is to use the waste heat from a nuclear power station.
- harvey9 11mo agoWhich is orthogonal to a point about weapons production.
- dyauspitr 1y ago[flagged]
- shadyKeystrokes 1y ago[flagged]
- thomassmith65 1y agoFor the sake of argument, maybe. In reality... nope https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_executions_in_Iran https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_executions_in_Iran
- panick21_ 1y agoThey spend quite a bit on water infrastructure, they just spend on the wrong water infrastructure. Just saying 'look at these other things government' isn't productive and applies to all things governments does. Spending more money isn't the solution if you spend on the wrong thing.
- skinnymuch 11mo agoMaybe if the west stopped being global terrorists, anti-imperialists wouldn’t have to work against them so much.
- mylons 11mo agoiran did this to themselves. any other view is simply insane.