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Maybe it's country specific - here in Canada I don't feel like I need a smart phone for anything crucial. There is a trend where people including zoomers such a

Maybe it's country specific - here in Canada I don't feel like I need a smart phone for anything crucial. There is a trend where people including zoomers such as myself switch to dumb phones for a "digital detox". So it seems perfectly feasible to do so.

makeitdouble 11mo ago
Some people can do it. I'd also ditch my smartphone if I was living in the woods, or had a personal assistant handling my daily needs, or lived in an Amish community etc. But I don't see the vast majority of people to be able to ditch their smartphone, that's just not a reasonable proposition.
- samdoesnothing 11mo ago
  They don't need to ditch smartphones, there are more options than just an iPhone/Pixel or dumb phone. But most people including myself just don't care about side loading. For those who do, there are options like a Fairphone, various Linux phones, etc.
  - alive0000002025 11mo ago
    A few people can live with just phone calls, but a sizeable majority use some additional apps for texting. Dumb phones won't work here. 1. Many people use a virtual text number, like google voice 2. Maybe even more folks use one or more app based texting services. I bet many users here have several on their phone: Signal What's app telegram There are probably 50 texting type apps in this category These are dangerous attack vectors for people trying to remotely control your phone, but also important to talk to your friends. I think we need a solution for these types of apps for a popular usable solution. I don't know how to solve the safety issue when running these apps, and I can't just "forward" text messages to my dumb phone.
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2000UltraDeluxe 11mo ago
I'm not sure how I'd manage tbh (in Finland). I was called a luddite for not wanting to follow the "official" schoool Whatsapp group. Online banking is practicably unusable without the bank's own 2FA app. Many things can still be done in a web browser, but the rest of society is going the smartphone route and it's increasingly difficult to avoid it. Any non-digital options are aimed at elderly and handicapped individuals; not people who don't want smartphones.

makeitdouble 11mo ago

Some people can do it. I'd also ditch my smartphone if I was living in the woods, or had a personal assistant handling my daily needs, or lived in an Amish community etc. But I don't see the vast majority of people to be able to ditch their smartphone, that's just not a reasonable proposition.

samdoesnothing 11mo ago
They don't need to ditch smartphones, there are more options than just an iPhone/Pixel or dumb phone. But most people including myself just don't care about side loading. For those who do, there are options like a Fairphone, various Linux phones, etc.
- alive0000002025 11mo ago
  A few people can live with just phone calls, but a sizeable majority use some additional apps for texting. Dumb phones won't work here. 1. Many people use a virtual text number, like google voice 2. Maybe even more folks use one or more app based texting services. I bet many users here have several on their phone: Signal What's app telegram There are probably 50 texting type apps in this category These are dangerous attack vectors for people trying to remotely control your phone, but also important to talk to your friends. I think we need a solution for these types of apps for a popular usable solution. I don't know how to solve the safety issue when running these apps, and I can't just "forward" text messages to my dumb phone.

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2000UltraDeluxe 11mo ago

I'm not sure how I'd manage tbh (in Finland). I was called a luddite for not wanting to follow the "official" schoool Whatsapp group. Online banking is practicably unusable without the bank's own 2FA app. Many things can still be done in a web browser, but the rest of society is going the smartphone route and it's increasingly difficult to avoid it. Any non-digital options are aimed at elderly and handicapped individuals; not people who don't want smartphones.