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Don't agree with the comments above and generally support DEI initiatives, but I also have an example. A new DEI director joined a previous employer and starte

Don't agree with the comments above and generally support DEI initiatives, but I also have an example. A new DEI director joined a previous employer and started a mandatory survey to affirmatively label everyone's trans status. Whatever you entered would be used to auto-update your public info page with details on whether you identified as trans or not, with no opt out. I hope I don't have to explain why that's ill-considered at best. Anyway, refusing to fill it out immediately escalated to a disciplinary meeting with the director.

scuff3d 1y ago
Yeah that's pure idiocy. That's so bad it almost feels like someone trying to out trans people under the guise of DEI.
- AlotOfReading 1y ago
  The director was a trans woman themselves, just not good at their job. At least they recognized the issue when was pointed out to them in that meeting, but this was just the tip of the iceberg for silly changes they pushed.
  - scuff3d 1y ago
    Yeah that's unfortunate. Hopefully they'll find the right balance. Well intentioned missteps are better then maliciousness I suppose.
    - machomaster 1y ago
      There is no difference. Even the worst people in the world easily explain their actions as good or at the very least as not so bad.
ryan_lane 1y ago
This isn't a good example, because this isn't "walking on eggshells", this is an example of a misguided policy that has unintended consequences, and in your own example, when they understood the unintended consequences, they removed this. Sure, this person was probably bad at their job, and that's problematic, but this isn't an example of someone being fired because they said something non-problematic.
- zahlman 1y ago
  > and in your own example, when they understood the unintended consequences, they removed this. The example says nothing of the sort.
  - AlotOfReading 1y ago
    Correct, they didn't remove the policy or change their views on the surrounding context of the disciplinary meeting. They simply understood the issue after it was explained to them. It's not a high bar.

scuff3d 1y ago

Yeah that's pure idiocy. That's so bad it almost feels like someone trying to out trans people under the guise of DEI.

AlotOfReading 1y ago
The director was a trans woman themselves, just not good at their job. At least they recognized the issue when was pointed out to them in that meeting, but this was just the tip of the iceberg for silly changes they pushed.
- scuff3d 1y ago
  Yeah that's unfortunate. Hopefully they'll find the right balance. Well intentioned missteps are better then maliciousness I suppose.
  - machomaster 1y ago
    There is no difference. Even the worst people in the world easily explain their actions as good or at the very least as not so bad.

ryan_lane 1y ago

This isn't a good example, because this isn't "walking on eggshells", this is an example of a misguided policy that has unintended consequences, and in your own example, when they understood the unintended consequences, they removed this. Sure, this person was probably bad at their job, and that's problematic, but this isn't an example of someone being fired because they said something non-problematic.

zahlman 1y ago
> and in your own example, when they understood the unintended consequences, they removed this. The example says nothing of the sort.
- AlotOfReading 1y ago
  Correct, they didn't remove the policy or change their views on the surrounding context of the disciplinary meeting. They simply understood the issue after it was explained to them. It's not a high bar.