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YouTube A/B testing removing playback speed controls

10 points by dotancohen 1y ago

I've been able to deal with most of the enshitification of Youtube, but now playback speed controls are no longer available in some of my Youtube playbacks. Refreshing the page sometimes makes them available. And there's a button to enable them by subscribing to Youtube Premium. I'm going to write to the channels that I subscribe to, to let them know why I'm leaving Youtube. Time to settle on an alternative service.

josephcsible 1y ago
Does this bookmarklet work to give you 2x speed anyway? javascript:for(v of document.getElementsByTagName('video'))v.playbackRate=2;void(0)
- dotancohen 1y ago
  Interestingly, it doesn't. I'll later spend some time checking the tag name. Thanks for the idea, I might code that into an extension.
al_borland 1y ago
I’m already a Premium user, so I suspect I won’t see a change. That said, I’m against turning formerly free features into paid ones. Especially something as useful as playback speed, which has been around forever. Whoever is making the decisions at YouTube is seems to be making one bad decision after another. The biggest issue with going to an alternative is that one doesn’t really exist. Yes, there are other video sharing sites, but they have a tiny sliver of the content YouTube has, as a viewer. As a creator, they have only a tiny sliver of the viewers, which hurts monetization efforts.
ungreased0675 1y ago
Product management at YouTube baffles me. What is being improved by removing speed controls? Certainly nothing on the user side of the equation.
Elfener 1y ago
I've switched to watching youtube videos using mpv. yt-dlp thankfully works, and this way, I can watch the video any way I want.
- biglyburrito 1y ago
  Never heard of mpv until you mentioned it just now. Very interesting.
- deleted 1y ago
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gethly 1y ago
No worries. The speed is built into the web browser. YouTube cannot disable it. Meaning, even if they remove the option from the player UI, the functionality cannot be removed. A simple browser extension will therefore always be available to supplement it.
- pants2 1y ago
  Don't be so sure - the company that owns YouTube also probably owns your web browser.
- sayamqazi 1y ago
  What if they start rendering video in js on canvas with a fully custom solution.
  - gethly 1y ago
    From what I rememebr it is a very inefficient way of doing it, FPS will be a problem and I think properly syncing sound, at least over longer than few seconds, might be even impossible. Either way, it makes very little sense on too many levels to do that.
- extraduder_ire 1y ago
  They can set it back to 1 using javascript any time it is increased though.
wazoox 1y ago
There are several extensions to manage playback speed, most allow faster speeds. Do they work for you?
- dotancohen 1y ago
  Not anymore

10 points by dotancohen 1y ago

josephcsible 1y ago

Does this bookmarklet work to give you 2x speed anyway? javascript:for(v of document.getElementsByTagName('video'))v.playbackRate=2;void(0)

dotancohen 1y ago
Interestingly, it doesn't. I'll later spend some time checking the tag name. Thanks for the idea, I might code that into an extension.

al_borland 1y ago

I’m already a Premium user, so I suspect I won’t see a change. That said, I’m against turning formerly free features into paid ones. Especially something as useful as playback speed, which has been around forever. Whoever is making the decisions at YouTube is seems to be making one bad decision after another. The biggest issue with going to an alternative is that one doesn’t really exist. Yes, there are other video sharing sites, but they have a tiny sliver of the content YouTube has, as a viewer. As a creator, they have only a tiny sliver of the viewers, which hurts monetization efforts.

ungreased0675 1y ago

Product management at YouTube baffles me. What is being improved by removing speed controls? Certainly nothing on the user side of the equation.

Elfener 1y ago

I've switched to watching youtube videos using mpv. yt-dlp thankfully works, and this way, I can watch the video any way I want.

biglyburrito 1y ago
Never heard of mpv until you mentioned it just now. Very interesting.
deleted 1y ago
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gethly 1y ago

No worries. The speed is built into the web browser. YouTube cannot disable it. Meaning, even if they remove the option from the player UI, the functionality cannot be removed. A simple browser extension will therefore always be available to supplement it.

pants2 1y ago
Don't be so sure - the company that owns YouTube also probably owns your web browser.
sayamqazi 1y ago
What if they start rendering video in js on canvas with a fully custom solution.
- gethly 1y ago
  From what I rememebr it is a very inefficient way of doing it, FPS will be a problem and I think properly syncing sound, at least over longer than few seconds, might be even impossible. Either way, it makes very little sense on too many levels to do that.
extraduder_ire 1y ago
They can set it back to 1 using javascript any time it is increased though.

wazoox 1y ago

There are several extensions to manage playback speed, most allow faster speeds. Do they work for you?

dotancohen 1y ago
Not anymore