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This does not reflect my reality. I have worked on half a dozen projects where we would have hired consultants to get the job done but have used coding agents t
by submeta 11mo ago
This does not reflect my reality. I have worked on half a dozen projects where we would have hired consultants to get the job done but have used coding agents to document, understand, migrate a project, create backend services, dashboards, and other things with budgets ranging from a few thousand euros to 200,000 euros. No consultants hired, nothing spent.
- diamond559 11mo agoWhat job did the llm do that was worth 200k Euro to you? Be extremely specific w/ hours worked etc bc we all totally believe you!
- foobar10000 11mo agoIn our case - agentic loop optimization of kernels. Works like a dream - after all, you have a perfect python spec (validation), the kernel is small (under 10 kloc), and the entire thing is testable. The trick is to have enough back test data so that things like cache behavior are taken into account. Ended up with different kernel versions for batch-back-test vs real-time work - which was interesting. 5 years ago would have hired about 10 ppl for the job - now 2.
- diamond559 11mo agoHow many man hours would it take 10 ppl to do this job?
- submeta 11mo agoIt was an innovation project, with an endowment of 200k. The task was to implement an llm based bot platform in a company with 700+ coworkers. After demoing MVPs, got 40k and access to experts I never needed to use. Deployed open source AWS solution, built customizations, landing pages, and data crawlers entirely solo using AI coding agents over ~3 months while working on other projects. Zero consultants, zero internal help. Would have easily burned the full 200k the traditional way.
- diamond559 11mo agoSo you still had to put in ~3 months of off and on again work, how many hours did it take you over those three months to configure everything yourself? Then figure about how much would you have had to budget out w/o the llm's help. Show me your math. Then of coarse you'd have to follow up w/ the company whether their "llm based bot platform" wasn't just a complete waste of their 200k in the first place for this to matter at all.
- system2 11mo agoDo you think a developer's monthly salary is $70k? I think the winner is obvious, assuming his product is really worth something and he really had $200k budget for it.
- potatowaffle 11mo agoI am very interested in learning what this bot platform is used for. How’s the reception? Thanks!
- sibeliuss 11mo agoSame - the leverage in using this tech is unbelievable for those who have a lot of experience. Folks are in denial.