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We do have personal numbers used for identification purposees, in my country we have the OIB https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_identification_number_(Croa

by dsego 11mo ago

We do have personal numbers used for identification purposees, in my country we have the OIB https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_identification_number_(Croatia) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_identification_number... which superseded the JMBG https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unique_Master_Citizen_Number https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unique_Master_Citizen_Number

eastbound 11mo ago
Countries don’t really want unique IDs per person, even though it would extremely simplify all administrative work, because: - How can spies have false identities, if you can account for every individual? - The only scalable way to get voters is not to make people switch to the opposite party, but to flood a country with people who will vote for you.
- earthnail 11mo ago
  Both points sound really weak I‘m afraid. From the perspective of a ruler of a country, both are much larger attack vectors for adversaries than opportunities for myself.
- viraptor 11mo ago
  > Countries don’t really want unique IDs per person Given the number is countries that already have those and those that attempt it every few years... I'd say it's not correct. For spies, you just issue multiple identities - the origin country shouldn't have any issues with that part. It already happened for witness protection level stuff. For voting... yeah, that's a citation needed. Politicians mostly worry about foreigners coming to vote.
- xondono 11mo ago
  That's BS, you can have spies with or without unique IDs, and there's better ways to get votes than creating fake people. Also, a lot of countries do have IDs...
- UltraSane 11mo ago
  Biometrics have made it very hard for spies to have many different identities.
foobarian 11mo ago
JMBG? One of the ex-YU countries?
- dsego 11mo ago
  Yes, Croatia moved to OIB, which is randomly generated unlike the MBG which was derived and contains personal information, like date of birth, region and gender.

by dsego 11mo ago

eastbound 11mo ago

Countries don’t really want unique IDs per person, even though it would extremely simplify all administrative work, because: - How can spies have false identities, if you can account for every individual? - The only scalable way to get voters is not to make people switch to the opposite party, but to flood a country with people who will vote for you.

earthnail 11mo ago
Both points sound really weak I‘m afraid. From the perspective of a ruler of a country, both are much larger attack vectors for adversaries than opportunities for myself.
viraptor 11mo ago
> Countries don’t really want unique IDs per person Given the number is countries that already have those and those that attempt it every few years... I'd say it's not correct. For spies, you just issue multiple identities - the origin country shouldn't have any issues with that part. It already happened for witness protection level stuff. For voting... yeah, that's a citation needed. Politicians mostly worry about foreigners coming to vote.
xondono 11mo ago
That's BS, you can have spies with or without unique IDs, and there's better ways to get votes than creating fake people. Also, a lot of countries do have IDs...
UltraSane 11mo ago
Biometrics have made it very hard for spies to have many different identities.

foobarian 11mo ago

JMBG? One of the ex-YU countries?

dsego 11mo ago
Yes, Croatia moved to OIB, which is randomly generated unlike the MBG which was derived and contains personal information, like date of birth, region and gender.