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We need more PyCon US 2013 submissions

117 points by pydanny 14y ago

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leopy 14y ago
Python is dead.
- vvpan 14y ago
  If a language is not making the front-pages of /r/programming and Hacker News much it does not mean that it is dead. Maybe just not as "hip" or even "hyped" as it used to be.
  - akoumjian 14y ago
    Python makes the front page here almost every day. I think this thread is being trolled.
    - sp332 14y ago
      Yes, by 2 accounts created about 20 minutes ago for the purpose. https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=leopy https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=leopy and https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=darmon https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=darmon
      - bduerst 14y ago
        Might be time to put a 24 hour wait period on allowing comments. You know, to let them think about what it is they're about to post.
        iends 14y ago
        In that case, make it a year?
        bduerst 14y ago
        Why not ten years?
- pydanny 14y ago
  trollolololol
- Wohlf 14y ago
  Long live Python.
darmon 14y ago
Who still uses Python?
- kingkilr 14y ago
  Google, NASA, Intel, AMD, Walt Disney Animation Studios, Canonical, Red Hat, Amazon, Netflix, and thousands upon thousands more.
  - ajtulloch 14y ago
    Facebook as well.
    - shill 14y ago
      I'm sure Python is used prevalently at Facebook, but if you search their career page for 'Python' you get zero results. https://www.facebook.com/careers/search?q=python&location= https://www.facebook.com/careers/search?q=python&locatio... If you search for 'PHP' you get goose eggs too. Does anyone know if language names are intentionally filtered out of career searches at Facebook? 'GIS' and 'Logistics' work as search terms.
      - kennymeyers 14y ago
        I believe our mentality is good engineers want interesting problems to solve and can learn any language. We're interested in what you've done, not the language can do it in.
      - nbm 14y ago
        (Work at Facebook, but not on this system, and know nothing about it.) It looks like the search matches on job title/position, and not content. That does seem a bit unexpected. In general, Facebook does not place much emphasis on programming languages that people know before they start at the job, and part of the Bootcamp process includes the expectation that people will be learning at least one language they don't know (unless they already know C++, Java, PHP, and Python at a production-code-writing-ability, and then they'll have to learn our libraries anyway). We obviously discuss the languages we use and what we use them for during the hiring process so that people know what they're getting themselves into - people might be looking for something familiar to ease themselves into it, or they might be looking to explore a new language when they start. (Yes, we use Python for a bunch of stuff. And I know we had a few people working on talk abstracts for PyCon to try meet the deadline that explore a few ways we use it.)
jnoller 14y ago
Who still uses Python you ask? Easy! This Year: https://us.pycon.org/2013/sponsors/ https://us.pycon.org/2013/sponsors/ Last Year: https://us.pycon.org/2012/sponsors/ https://us.pycon.org/2012/sponsors/ And I've got about 14 more pending for 2013 :) There's some big names there. I know there are more. Almost every company listed there is hiring there, both on the site and at the on site jobs fair: https://us.pycon.org/2013/sponsors/prospectus/ https://us.pycon.org/2013/sponsors/prospectus/ Join us.
- dabent 14y ago
  "Almost every company listed there is hiring there, both on the site and at the on site jobs fair" It's true. That's how I got my job at (2013 Gold sponsor) TrueCar, back in 2011. It's a great event to attend, just to be around that many like-minded folks. I was actually on "Startup Row" and wandered around a bit during talks when the exhibit hall was empty and was asked if I'd like to work two blocks from the beach. The line worked. Speaking of Startup Row, do you have plans to run that again this year? It was great to see all the young companies using Python.
ebrynne 14y ago
As someone who's never given a speech at a conference before, but is very interested in sharing his newfound knowledge and love of Python, is there anywhere people would recommend reading up on the form or content of such a proposal? Thanks!
- akuchling 14y ago
  The PyCon site has a page of advice that links to sample proposals and relevant blog entries: https://us.pycon.org/2013/speaking/proposal_advice/ https://us.pycon.org/2013/speaking/proposal_advice/
  - simonw 14y ago
    This is a much better answer than mine above :)
    - ebrynne 14y ago
      Either way, thanks to both of you. I appreciate the guidance as a relatively new member of the community. And with any luck, you'll see me at PyCon this spring!
      - IanOzsvald 14y ago
        I'll echo Simon - just submit a short proposal (I've posted 3 :-). New speakers are encouraged as they help the community to grow. Consider adding a Poster Proposal as a backup so you could still talk about your subject even if you don't get a speaking slot. The Poster sessions last year were huge and very good.
- simonw 14y ago
  You might be over-thinking things a bit... depending on the conference, a talk proposal often only needs to be a couple of paragraphs. You don't need to have planned the talk out in detail - just an explanation of what it is you intend to talk about and some background on your experience with the topic.
mkhattab 14y ago
Gosh, it seems like Pycon 2012 was just yesterday. I considered contributing to PyCon 2013 but time just flies.
megamark16 14y ago
Some people want to talk but aren't sure what to talk about, so what were your favorite topics from last year? Some of mine were: * Sketching a Better Product * Building a Robot that Can Play Angry Birds on a Smartphone * RESTful APIs With Tastypie * Documenting Your Project With Sphinx
simeonf 14y ago
How many is enough? Is it encouraged to spam with many presentations to see if any stick? I submitted one tutorial, three talks...
mmariani 14y ago
I just watched Robert Hancock's talk on coroutines [0]. More of that or him would be awesome! [0] http://lanyrd.com/2011/pygotham/shppw http://lanyrd.com/2011/pygotham/shppw
- rabidsnail 14y ago
  BTW, anybody interested in python coroutines should go read the greenlet source. It's pretty readable, well commented, and is the best way to get your head around what's happening to the stack when you do a coroutine switch. https://github.com/python-greenlet/greenlet/blob/master/greenlet.c https://github.com/python-greenlet/greenlet/blob/master/gree...
jbellis 14y ago
PyCon is still my favorite conference by a long shot. I did think that 2012 felt like it was losing some of the community vibe, with evenings dominated by big sponsor events instead of BoF sessions, but in a way I guess that's a good problem to have.
- sontek 14y ago
  I felt the same way for 2012

117 points by pydanny 14y ago

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leopy 14y ago

Python is dead.

vvpan 14y ago
If a language is not making the front-pages of /r/programming and Hacker News much it does not mean that it is dead. Maybe just not as "hip" or even "hyped" as it used to be.
- akoumjian 14y ago
  Python makes the front page here almost every day. I think this thread is being trolled.
  - sp332 14y ago
    Yes, by 2 accounts created about 20 minutes ago for the purpose. https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=leopy https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=leopy and https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=darmon https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=darmon
    - bduerst 14y ago
      Might be time to put a 24 hour wait period on allowing comments. You know, to let them think about what it is they're about to post.
      - iends 14y ago
        In that case, make it a year?
        bduerst 14y ago
        Why not ten years?
pydanny 14y ago
trollolololol
Wohlf 14y ago
Long live Python.

darmon 14y ago

Who still uses Python?

kingkilr 14y ago
Google, NASA, Intel, AMD, Walt Disney Animation Studios, Canonical, Red Hat, Amazon, Netflix, and thousands upon thousands more.
- ajtulloch 14y ago
  Facebook as well.
  - shill 14y ago
    I'm sure Python is used prevalently at Facebook, but if you search their career page for 'Python' you get zero results. https://www.facebook.com/careers/search?q=python&location= https://www.facebook.com/careers/search?q=python&locatio... If you search for 'PHP' you get goose eggs too. Does anyone know if language names are intentionally filtered out of career searches at Facebook? 'GIS' and 'Logistics' work as search terms.
    - kennymeyers 14y ago
      I believe our mentality is good engineers want interesting problems to solve and can learn any language. We're interested in what you've done, not the language can do it in.
    - nbm 14y ago
      (Work at Facebook, but not on this system, and know nothing about it.) It looks like the search matches on job title/position, and not content. That does seem a bit unexpected. In general, Facebook does not place much emphasis on programming languages that people know before they start at the job, and part of the Bootcamp process includes the expectation that people will be learning at least one language they don't know (unless they already know C++, Java, PHP, and Python at a production-code-writing-ability, and then they'll have to learn our libraries anyway). We obviously discuss the languages we use and what we use them for during the hiring process so that people know what they're getting themselves into - people might be looking for something familiar to ease themselves into it, or they might be looking to explore a new language when they start. (Yes, we use Python for a bunch of stuff. And I know we had a few people working on talk abstracts for PyCon to try meet the deadline that explore a few ways we use it.)

jnoller 14y ago

Who still uses Python you ask? Easy! This Year: https://us.pycon.org/2013/sponsors/ https://us.pycon.org/2013/sponsors/ Last Year: https://us.pycon.org/2012/sponsors/ https://us.pycon.org/2012/sponsors/ And I've got about 14 more pending for 2013 :) There's some big names there. I know there are more. Almost every company listed there is hiring there, both on the site and at the on site jobs fair: https://us.pycon.org/2013/sponsors/prospectus/ https://us.pycon.org/2013/sponsors/prospectus/ Join us.

dabent 14y ago
"Almost every company listed there is hiring there, both on the site and at the on site jobs fair" It's true. That's how I got my job at (2013 Gold sponsor) TrueCar, back in 2011. It's a great event to attend, just to be around that many like-minded folks. I was actually on "Startup Row" and wandered around a bit during talks when the exhibit hall was empty and was asked if I'd like to work two blocks from the beach. The line worked. Speaking of Startup Row, do you have plans to run that again this year? It was great to see all the young companies using Python.

ebrynne 14y ago

As someone who's never given a speech at a conference before, but is very interested in sharing his newfound knowledge and love of Python, is there anywhere people would recommend reading up on the form or content of such a proposal? Thanks!

akuchling 14y ago
The PyCon site has a page of advice that links to sample proposals and relevant blog entries: https://us.pycon.org/2013/speaking/proposal_advice/ https://us.pycon.org/2013/speaking/proposal_advice/
- simonw 14y ago
  This is a much better answer than mine above :)
  - ebrynne 14y ago
    Either way, thanks to both of you. I appreciate the guidance as a relatively new member of the community. And with any luck, you'll see me at PyCon this spring!
    - IanOzsvald 14y ago
      I'll echo Simon - just submit a short proposal (I've posted 3 :-). New speakers are encouraged as they help the community to grow. Consider adding a Poster Proposal as a backup so you could still talk about your subject even if you don't get a speaking slot. The Poster sessions last year were huge and very good.
simonw 14y ago
You might be over-thinking things a bit... depending on the conference, a talk proposal often only needs to be a couple of paragraphs. You don't need to have planned the talk out in detail - just an explanation of what it is you intend to talk about and some background on your experience with the topic.

mkhattab 14y ago

Gosh, it seems like Pycon 2012 was just yesterday. I considered contributing to PyCon 2013 but time just flies.

megamark16 14y ago

Some people want to talk but aren't sure what to talk about, so what were your favorite topics from last year? Some of mine were: * Sketching a Better Product * Building a Robot that Can Play Angry Birds on a Smartphone * RESTful APIs With Tastypie * Documenting Your Project With Sphinx

simeonf 14y ago

How many is enough? Is it encouraged to spam with many presentations to see if any stick? I submitted one tutorial, three talks...

mmariani 14y ago

I just watched Robert Hancock's talk on coroutines [0]. More of that or him would be awesome! [0] http://lanyrd.com/2011/pygotham/shppw http://lanyrd.com/2011/pygotham/shppw

rabidsnail 14y ago
BTW, anybody interested in python coroutines should go read the greenlet source. It's pretty readable, well commented, and is the best way to get your head around what's happening to the stack when you do a coroutine switch. https://github.com/python-greenlet/greenlet/blob/master/greenlet.c https://github.com/python-greenlet/greenlet/blob/master/gree...

jbellis 14y ago

PyCon is still my favorite conference by a long shot. I did think that 2012 felt like it was losing some of the community vibe, with evenings dominated by big sponsor events instead of BoF sessions, but in a way I guess that's a good problem to have.

sontek 14y ago
I felt the same way for 2012