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This post really has no reason to be flagged. I know Elon is controversial, and I have a lot of gripes with his business practices myself, but this is literally

by ronsor 1y ago

This post really has no reason to be flagged. I know Elon is controversial, and I have a lot of gripes with his business practices myself, but this is literally just documentation for a frontier LLM. Can we stay on topic?

big-and-small 1y ago
This. I wouldn't pay to use it, but big context windows are amazing for programming and especially prototyping when you can keep whole codebase in context. Gemini's 1M is amazing.
ergocoder 1y ago
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- poly2it 1y ago
  Are you implying that avoiding use of services controlled by a fascistoid oligarch is cope?
  - ergocoder 1y ago
    Not really. If we are gonna avoid using the services by an oligarch, then just say that. No need to go through the 5 steps of denial. I hope we are not against being honest.... but you can see a bunch of comments here going through those steps already.
oulipo2 1y ago
The politics of the owners IS the topic. It's being really naive (read: stupid) to think that this has no implication on society
- TheOtherHobbes 1y ago
  You're literally handing over your code to a third party. In fact AI is handing over the process of creating code - eventually all code - to a small number of third parties, who will have complete power over the world's IT infrastructure. No wonder they have wildly inflated valuations. The potential to enforce authoritarian policies through opaque technology is unprecedented.
ramraj07 1y ago
Here's an on topic question: all the frontier model companies "promise" that they wont store and train on your api use if you pay for it. Who do you trust? I for sure will absolutely assume grok will just use the data I submit to train in perpetuity. Thats a scary thing for me and if anyone else does anything thats real work this should be great cause for worry if they wish to use grok.
- pixel_popping 1y ago
  Do you really think Google isn't logging all our prompts?
  - ramraj07 1y ago
    I will trust Google to abide by the rules more than any other big tech firm. Like with all my money ill make that bet. Not because I think they're good guys but from everything I have learned they have a culture that abides by rules like these. If they say they wont train on api use (they do say it) I feel assured they wont.
hu3 1y ago
This. We like to think about ourselves as engineers. But often behave like a bunch of emotion driven primitives. Honestly this kind of behaviour would be a huge red flag during interviews. I have problems that current LLMs can't solve efficiently due to context window sizes. And welcome any improvement in this space.
- autop0ietic 1y ago
  I personally can't stand Musk but for many he has become an Emmanuel Goldstein character that even the mention of his name causes the most extreme emotional disgust from all the exposure of this strange, algorithmic, Two Minutes Hate.
tastyface 1y ago
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bdangubic 1y ago
Grok is not LLM, it is “not-so-large-take-out-what-Elon-doesnt-like LM” - no documentation necessary :)

by ronsor 1y ago

big-and-small 1y ago

This. I wouldn't pay to use it, but big context windows are amazing for programming and especially prototyping when you can keep whole codebase in context. Gemini's 1M is amazing.

ergocoder 1y ago

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poly2it 1y ago
Are you implying that avoiding use of services controlled by a fascistoid oligarch is cope?
- ergocoder 1y ago
  Not really. If we are gonna avoid using the services by an oligarch, then just say that. No need to go through the 5 steps of denial. I hope we are not against being honest.... but you can see a bunch of comments here going through those steps already.

oulipo2 1y ago

The politics of the owners IS the topic. It's being really naive (read: stupid) to think that this has no implication on society

TheOtherHobbes 1y ago
You're literally handing over your code to a third party. In fact AI is handing over the process of creating code - eventually all code - to a small number of third parties, who will have complete power over the world's IT infrastructure. No wonder they have wildly inflated valuations. The potential to enforce authoritarian policies through opaque technology is unprecedented.

ramraj07 1y ago

Here's an on topic question: all the frontier model companies "promise" that they wont store and train on your api use if you pay for it. Who do you trust? I for sure will absolutely assume grok will just use the data I submit to train in perpetuity. Thats a scary thing for me and if anyone else does anything thats real work this should be great cause for worry if they wish to use grok.

pixel_popping 1y ago
Do you really think Google isn't logging all our prompts?
- ramraj07 1y ago
  I will trust Google to abide by the rules more than any other big tech firm. Like with all my money ill make that bet. Not because I think they're good guys but from everything I have learned they have a culture that abides by rules like these. If they say they wont train on api use (they do say it) I feel assured they wont.

hu3 1y ago

This. We like to think about ourselves as engineers. But often behave like a bunch of emotion driven primitives. Honestly this kind of behaviour would be a huge red flag during interviews. I have problems that current LLMs can't solve efficiently due to context window sizes. And welcome any improvement in this space.

autop0ietic 1y ago
I personally can't stand Musk but for many he has become an Emmanuel Goldstein character that even the mention of his name causes the most extreme emotional disgust from all the exposure of this strange, algorithmic, Two Minutes Hate.

tastyface 1y ago

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bdangubic 1y ago

Grok is not LLM, it is “not-so-large-take-out-what-Elon-doesnt-like LM” - no documentation necessary :)