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I do! I have felt bad vibes from OpenAI for a while now, and eventually defaulted to Grok as somewhat the lesser of many evils. I respect anybody who doesn't wi

I do! I have felt bad vibes from OpenAI for a while now, and eventually defaulted to Grok as somewhat the lesser of many evils. I respect anybody who doesn't wish to use it, but it's good enough for what I need it for. Case in point: it just spit out valid OpenSCAD code for an adapter piece I want to 3D print.

Glamklo 1y ago
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dmead 1y ago
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- LorenDB 1y ago
  I feel compelled to point out that the Mechahitler thing was prompted by bad actors hiding invisible tokens in tweets, but sure, it's maybe an unpopular opinion. Basically, the major free options out there for LLMs are OpenAI, Google, Perplexity, DeepSeek, Meta, and Grok. (I could be missing stuff here, but those are the main players.) DeepSeek is out because of China ties. OpenAI and Perplexity have CEOs that seem incredibly shifty to me. I refuse to give Meta and Google any more info than I have to, so I'm avoiding them. Hence we fall back to Grok. Again, maybe not a completely logical progression, but it's my choice and I get to live with the consequences :)
  - dmead 1y ago
    The best ones are out for... Reasons? This seems completely bad faith and honestly really Elon musk fanboyish. Literally none of this options you listed are that objectionable. Do what the rest of us do and switch frequently. Don't use mekafurhur and you'll be fine.
  - wqaatwt 1y ago
    > CEOs that seem incredibly shifty to me Yet the next level beyond “incredibly” somehow makes it alright again?
- ronsor 1y ago
  I find it funny that people are still calling Grok "mechahitler" as if that weren't prompted by trolls and the AI model is going to set up concentration camps on every block.
  - Glamklo 1y ago
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  - littlestymaar 1y ago
    > if that weren't prompted by trolls It is, but the troll is the CEO playing with the system prompt…
- jeffhuys 1y ago
  You know, feel free to keep thinking this. In my experience Grok is the best. I don’t let myself into weird groupthink that happens just because trolls took advantage of Grok’s absence of lobotomy. Kind of a superpower.
anon214535 1y ago
I don't understand how anyone can think Grok is the lesser of many evils. It seems to me that Grok is currently playing in its own league of evil. Most models belong to capitalist companies that are fairly apolitical and all they care about is money. Their evil comes from not caring about consequences as long as it grows their value. Their censorship come from the desire to avoid PR disasters. On the other hand, Grok belongs to a billionaire involved in destroying America's democracy, and it's being openly manipulated according to Musk's ideology. I can't think of a model I would trust less.

Glamklo 1y ago

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LorenDB 1y ago
I feel compelled to point out that the Mechahitler thing was prompted by bad actors hiding invisible tokens in tweets, but sure, it's maybe an unpopular opinion. Basically, the major free options out there for LLMs are OpenAI, Google, Perplexity, DeepSeek, Meta, and Grok. (I could be missing stuff here, but those are the main players.) DeepSeek is out because of China ties. OpenAI and Perplexity have CEOs that seem incredibly shifty to me. I refuse to give Meta and Google any more info than I have to, so I'm avoiding them. Hence we fall back to Grok. Again, maybe not a completely logical progression, but it's my choice and I get to live with the consequences :)
- dmead 1y ago
  The best ones are out for... Reasons? This seems completely bad faith and honestly really Elon musk fanboyish. Literally none of this options you listed are that objectionable. Do what the rest of us do and switch frequently. Don't use mekafurhur and you'll be fine.
- wqaatwt 1y ago
  > CEOs that seem incredibly shifty to me Yet the next level beyond “incredibly” somehow makes it alright again?
ronsor 1y ago
I find it funny that people are still calling Grok "mechahitler" as if that weren't prompted by trolls and the AI model is going to set up concentration camps on every block.
- Glamklo 1y ago
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- littlestymaar 1y ago
  > if that weren't prompted by trolls It is, but the troll is the CEO playing with the system prompt…
jeffhuys 1y ago
You know, feel free to keep thinking this. In my experience Grok is the best. I don’t let myself into weird groupthink that happens just because trolls took advantage of Grok’s absence of lobotomy. Kind of a superpower.

anon214535 1y ago

I don't understand how anyone can think Grok is the lesser of many evils. It seems to me that Grok is currently playing in its own league of evil. Most models belong to capitalist companies that are fairly apolitical and all they care about is money. Their evil comes from not caring about consequences as long as it grows their value. Their censorship come from the desire to avoid PR disasters. On the other hand, Grok belongs to a billionaire involved in destroying America's democracy, and it's being openly manipulated according to Musk's ideology. I can't think of a model I would trust less.