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Who here actually uses Grok? It's sad to see Elon's arc but when he doubled down on some of his political ideas he had it coming with the Tesla sales going down
by behnamoh 1y ago
Who here actually uses Grok? It's sad to see Elon's arc but when he doubled down on some of his political ideas he had it coming with the Tesla sales going down and x.ai not taken seriously.
I've always tried to remain apolitical and unbiased but it's hard to overlook who's behind a technology you wanna buy. Not that sama and others are saints either, it's just Elon's very obvious and vocal about it.
It's a shame, really, because Grok is a good model. But Elon promised to open source the previous model and it took them forever to do that with Grok 3. Sorry, but I wanna buy from someone who keeps their promises ("FSD by next year").
- wetpaws 1y ago[dead]
- jacquesm 1y ago[flagged]
- YetAnotherNick 1y agoGrok fast is by far the most used model in openrouter with more than a trillion tokens weekly[1]. [1]: https://openrouter.ai/rankings https://openrouter.ai/rankings
- behnamoh 1y agoBecause some tools (AFAIR Kilo Code but I might be wrong) gave it away for free. The model itself was (still is?) free for a while, so I'm not surprised.
- ribelo 1y agoOpenrouter is not counting tokens used by Kilo or Cline. They have own endpoints.
- wqaatwt 1y agoYet if you go to the actual model’s page: https://openrouter.ai/x-ai/grok-code-fast-1 https://openrouter.ai/x-ai/grok-code-fast-1 Cline and Kilo code are in the top 3. So how does that work? It’s considerably cheaper than competing models like 2.5 flash, though. So its not that surprising
- YetAnotherNick 1y agoIt doesn't include the free usage. There is a different model named grok code fast 1 free.
- rjdj377dhabsn 1y agoFor at least the last year, I've been using Grok for 90% of my queries. I pay for their $30 plan as well as $20 for Claude Code, which I only use for simple development projects. For anything more complicated, Grok's expert mode has consistently better results.
- Sherveen 1y ago[flagged]
- danskeren 1y agoI throw all my queries at Grok 4 Expert, GPT 5 Thinking and Opus 4.1 Extended Thinking.. for Golang it's been my experience that Grok produce the best results about 90% of the time as well. Some simple example: https://claude.ai/share/6d178173-cdf7-4e50-a467-73ee9f479d56 https://claude.ai/share/6d178173-cdf7-4e50-a467-73ee9f479d56. https://chatgpt.com/share/69102735-46ac-8012-9cf0-0969585c86e6 https://chatgpt.com/share/69102735-46ac-8012-9cf0-0969585c86.... https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5LWNvcHk%3D_54b5f2f1-732e-4372-b0bb-d72f4ac31004 https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5LWNvcHk%3D_54b5f2f1-732e-4372.... I don't use Gemini but haven't been impressed whenever I tried it with GitHub Copilot.
- vasco 1y agoI used to think OpenAI was going to be the Yahoo of the AI wave, but might not even be that, maybe it's the AOL. And from what it looks like to me Google is preparing to be the Google of the AI wave.
- GCUMstlyHarmls 1y agoOr maybe the Google Wave of the AI Wave...
- f311a 1y agoNot sure about Claude, but OpenAI models are pretty bad at Go for some reason. For example, they always want to replace the "new" style for-loop that uses range with the old syntax. This drives me nuts.
- dynjo 1y ago[flagged]
- weird-eye-issue 1y ago> I've always tried to remain apolitical and unbiased Clearly
- decremental 1y ago[dead]
- kelsolaar 1y agoAs you point out, Sam Altman is not exactly an altar boy: https://fastcompany.co.za/business/2025-11-07-sam-altmans-trustworthiness-under-scrutiny-following-court-revelations/ https://fastcompany.co.za/business/2025-11-07-sam-altmans-tr...
- andai 1y agoThought this would be about the whistleblower. They didn't even mention it!
- roman_soldier 1y agoYes allegedly having an employee bumped off for whistleblowing and the sister thing is way worse than someone having a different opinion than you. One is criminal the other is free speech.
- darkwater 1y agoI don't think you can compare the usual internal backstabbing between executives with someone who literally directed and participated in acts of the US Government, and keep saying and doing things to help and nurture a certain side of the political spectrum.
- vasco 1y agoBoth do both.
- supriyo-biswas 1y agoI've been occasionally using Grok and found it good for devops stuff; specifically it often is able to explain and produce working configurations without getting lost or introducing subtle mistakes as I've sometimes seen with other models.
- sipsi 1y agoi didn't
- galaxy_gas 1y agoI have try it a few times in Copilot as code fast 1 because it was advertised. It has never correctly done something so far. Maybe because it's the fast ver ?
- jasonvorhe 1y agoMaybe you just used it wrong? I refactored a complicated code base, built exhaustive tests for a CLI app and I've been maintaining and building out several k8s clusters out of a mono repo using Cline + grok-code-fast-1 and it's been a breeze.
- mudkipdev 1y agoI don't but only because the model is not satisfying, not because I dislike Tesla
- Void_ 1y agoHalf of USA voted for Trump. That should answer “who actually uses Grok”. I personally use the best tool for the job, which Grok sometimes is.
- aaronbrethorst 1y agoTrump received 77.3 million votes. Harris received 75 million votes. The US population is about 342 million.
- herbst 1y agoI am not sure why these numbers would matter. He won, obviously, because the majority of voters voted for him. Which are Americans, Americans who either voted for him and didn't do enough against him. There is really no excuse to democratically vote for a person like this and let all this bullshit happen.
- raincole 1y agoIn my experience Grok Fast is the best "cheaper" model out there. Far better than Haiku 4.5 and Gemini Flash. I don't think the other cheaper models should be treated seriously at this point.
- behnamoh 1y agoGemini Flash is the first model I disable in any tool I use. It's a joke, and to add salt to injury, google announced a "lite" version of that as well!
- RobKohr 1y agoI like grok for noncoding stuff. I find it hasn't been tuned for "Safety" (meaning it isn't tuned much for political correctness). It also seems good at making images and stories up well. I run some choose your own adventures stories with my kids through it. We tell it who each of their characters are and what the theme is for the night and grok gives them each a section of story and 4 choices. They also have the option of choosing something different then suggested. We have it so it cycles around the turns for everyone. Works pretty well, and if the kids wanna go dark (preteen boy) grok doesn't mind the violence. Kinda reminds me of the video game from enders game.
- vlovich123 1y ago> meaning it isn't tuned much for political correctness Is being tuned for right wing viewpoints the same as not being tuned for political correctness? Because there is tuning happening to a specific viewpoint: https://gizmodo.com/elon-says-hes-working-to-fix-grok-after-ai-disagrees-with-him-on-right-wing-violence-2000617420 https://gizmodo.com/elon-says-hes-working-to-fix-grok-after-...
- gitaarik 1y agoYeah, but you can argue that the AI has been biased because of biased training data. Ultimately every AI is biased based on what you train it on and how you instruct it. I tend to use LLMs from different companies and personally compare them, and read between the lines.
- Yoric 1y ago> I tend to use LLMs from different companies and personally compare them, and read between the lines. Read between the lines? Does this mean that you're using LLMs as a source of information?
- wohoef 1y agoThe point of LLMs is that there’s nothing in between the lines. Or do you mean to say that you are trying to find the specific bias each model has?
- LorenDB 1y agoI do! I have felt bad vibes from OpenAI for a while now, and eventually defaulted to Grok as somewhat the lesser of many evils. I respect anybody who doesn't wish to use it, but it's good enough for what I need it for. Case in point: it just spit out valid OpenSCAD code for an adapter piece I want to 3D print.
- Glamklo 1y ago[flagged]
- dmead 1y ago[flagged]
- LorenDB 1y agoI feel compelled to point out that the Mechahitler thing was prompted by bad actors hiding invisible tokens in tweets, but sure, it's maybe an unpopular opinion. Basically, the major free options out there for LLMs are OpenAI, Google, Perplexity, DeepSeek, Meta, and Grok. (I could be missing stuff here, but those are the main players.) DeepSeek is out because of China ties. OpenAI and Perplexity have CEOs that seem incredibly shifty to me. I refuse to give Meta and Google any more info than I have to, so I'm avoiding them. Hence we fall back to Grok. Again, maybe not a completely logical progression, but it's my choice and I get to live with the consequences :)
- dmead 1y agoThe best ones are out for... Reasons? This seems completely bad faith and honestly really Elon musk fanboyish. Literally none of this options you listed are that objectionable. Do what the rest of us do and switch frequently. Don't use mekafurhur and you'll be fine.
- wqaatwt 1y ago> CEOs that seem incredibly shifty to me Yet the next level beyond “incredibly” somehow makes it alright again?
- minimaxir 1y agoGoing off OpenRouter's rankings (https://openrouter.ai/rankings https://openrouter.ai/rankings), Grok Code Fast 1 is the most used model by a significant margin, and since those metrics are calculated as of this week, that's after providers stopped giving free promotional access to it. Grok 4 Fast is #5 on that list which was never free. In terms of models, Grok 4 Fast has essentially zero restrictions on safety, which a) makes it unusable for most applications that allow user input and b) makes it extremely useful for certain applications.
- BoredPositron 1y agoIt's the only model that lets you do gooner shit. That's why the usage is highly skewed. You can just call a horse a horse if you see one.
- Squarex 1y agothis is a code model, not the general one
- BoredPositron 1y agoyou are so naive. lol. It's a general model with the tag "code" added to it.
- jasonvorhe 1y agoThis is nonsense. grok-code-fast-1 is just part of many free tiers of agentic coding assistants like Cline etc.
- chistev 1y agoWhat models are better than Grok?
- dymk 1y agoSonnet-4 and onward, GPT-4 and onward
- NaomiLehman 1y agoand GLM-4.6
- whywhywhywhy 1y agoSaying “GPT-4” is dishonest, launch GPt4 was significantly better than anything devday downgrade, all the 4o nonsense etc. In reality GPT really sucked from devday until 5 and it redeemed itself
- schappim 1y agoI used Grok to successfully split a large 10K-line file of spaghetti code into multiple smaller well organised files. This was after giving the same task to Claude, OpenAI, and Gemini, all of which consistently failed. Grok certainly has its uses, but I default to OpenAI for most business tasks and Claude for code.
- gitaarik 1y agoAll propietary AIs are probably biased in some way. I mean, that is the power of them and the reason they're propietary, right? So I tend to use different LLMs from different providers, personally compare them and read between the lines.
- roman_soldier 1y agoAt least Elon is open about what he believes. Other CEO's hide behind corporate PR machines, how do you know they are not psychopaths.
- KingMob 1y ago> At least Elon is open about what he believes. @dril: "you do not, under any circumstances, 'gotta hand it to them'"
- sidibe 1y agoThere's a nonzero chance they are not psychopaths. Elon reminds us daily about his chances
- voganmother42 1y agoYeah he was really open about his salute eh soldier?
- apu6865i 1y agoLet me give you a perspective. For Indians Winston Churchill is no different than Hitler. The guy was responsible for millions of death in bengal famine.But for you and I assume majority of this forum and westerners he is a hero. Against Winston Churchill though Elon appears like a saint!
- whywhywhywhy 1y agoGroks underrated honestly. If you have to market on X you need a sub anyway so it’s replaced casual questions/sort of questions I used to Google for me and I’m not seeing anything worse than ChatGPT and often it’s better. Much better at current events. The video gen is actually really good fast and cheap for short videos. Still use Claude and GPT5 for work tasks but I haven’t tried grok extensively for those
- Bender 1y agoI used it to calculate the size of a greenhouse using a lot of inputs and restrictions. It did that fine but the one thing I did not appreciate was its sense of humor. It said the excavator would be here first thing Monday along with a pot of coffee. Just tell me a dad joke or just skip the attempt at humor all together.
- Tycho 1y agoI use Grok more than other LLMs. It’s built into X, so the use case of pressing the Grok button on a post to see an explanation for something I didn’t understand, or a fact check for something I doubted, or just more background on a subject, is by far the most frequently useful feature of AI in my day to day life. People seem to nitpick a lot. Grok 3 came out in, what, March? Cost how many tens of millions to train? And you’re mad because it’s not open source yet?
- XCSme 1y agoI use Grok 4 Fast via API, cheap, fast and almost really well suited for data parsing/extraction, a lot better than Gemini 2.5 Pro for example.
- replwoacause 1y agoI won't go near anything Elon touches because of this. He's a clown.