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I find it somewhat inconsistent that you feel people's choice of indoor temperature is an imposition on you, but also that your choice of sailboat should entitl

I find it somewhat inconsistent that you feel people's choice of indoor temperature is an imposition on you, but also that your choice of sailboat should entitle you to having something that is literally hundreds of times larger and less nimble than you have to make the effort to go around you.

ofalkaed 1y ago
I didn't say that I am entitled or that it was an imposition, just that it was complex and I have mixed feelings about it, literally said that I don't think society should make allowances for me.
- rkomorn 1y ago
  Yeah idk. Maybe it's the tone of stuff like "it would incur undue hardship" (re indoor temps) that comes across to me as a bit holier than thou and makes the rest of your first paragraph seem more self-centered.
  - ofalkaed 1y ago
    I plainly stated that society should not bow to my needs and that those who contribute to society and are a part of society are more important than me, what more do you want?
    - rkomorn 1y ago
      I know, I know. Look, I'm sorry for nitpicking. I actually agree with the idea of having a lower footprint, reducing, etc. I think you're doing a good thing, and I hope you stay safe at sea.
      - ofalkaed 1y ago
        We all get hung up on such things on occasion, realizing it is probably better than never doing it.
bergie 1y ago
> that your choice of sailboat should entitle you to having something that is literally hundreds of times larger and less nimble than you have to make the effort to go around you. That's how the rules of the road work. See: COLREGs. We also travel by a small sailboat, and it is always reassuring to see huge tankers make small course changes tens of nautical miles away. That way everybody stays safe and nobody is majorly inconvenienced.
- rkomorn 1y ago
  I know it's the rule of the road, but that's not the point. The point is the inconsistency in tone between "your life choices make me go around your wind farm, that makes my life difficult", and "my life choices make your giant freighter go around me, I have right of way".
  - ofalkaed 1y ago
    Small sail boats do not need to go around wind farms, they can just sail right through them assuming the weather is agreeable. The problem is more that if you are caught up in a storm anywhere near a windfarm (within range of the storm carrying you into it) it makes everything very dangerous for you; instead of dropping sail and letting the boat find its way through the storm from the safety of below decks you have to stay on deck and fight the storm. To put this into metropolitan terms, it would be like routing the main pedestrian path through the most dangerous part of town for the sake of a highway. Either way, to repeat myself again, I did not say I was right or better and plainly stated my mixed feelings.

ofalkaed 1y ago

I didn't say that I am entitled or that it was an imposition, just that it was complex and I have mixed feelings about it, literally said that I don't think society should make allowances for me.

rkomorn 1y ago
Yeah idk. Maybe it's the tone of stuff like "it would incur undue hardship" (re indoor temps) that comes across to me as a bit holier than thou and makes the rest of your first paragraph seem more self-centered.
- ofalkaed 1y ago
  I plainly stated that society should not bow to my needs and that those who contribute to society and are a part of society are more important than me, what more do you want?
  - rkomorn 1y ago
    I know, I know. Look, I'm sorry for nitpicking. I actually agree with the idea of having a lower footprint, reducing, etc. I think you're doing a good thing, and I hope you stay safe at sea.
    - ofalkaed 1y ago
      We all get hung up on such things on occasion, realizing it is probably better than never doing it.

bergie 1y ago

> that your choice of sailboat should entitle you to having something that is literally hundreds of times larger and less nimble than you have to make the effort to go around you. That's how the rules of the road work. See: COLREGs. We also travel by a small sailboat, and it is always reassuring to see huge tankers make small course changes tens of nautical miles away. That way everybody stays safe and nobody is majorly inconvenienced.

rkomorn 1y ago
I know it's the rule of the road, but that's not the point. The point is the inconsistency in tone between "your life choices make me go around your wind farm, that makes my life difficult", and "my life choices make your giant freighter go around me, I have right of way".
- ofalkaed 1y ago
  Small sail boats do not need to go around wind farms, they can just sail right through them assuming the weather is agreeable. The problem is more that if you are caught up in a storm anywhere near a windfarm (within range of the storm carrying you into it) it makes everything very dangerous for you; instead of dropping sail and letting the boat find its way through the storm from the safety of below decks you have to stay on deck and fight the storm. To put this into metropolitan terms, it would be like routing the main pedestrian path through the most dangerous part of town for the sake of a highway. Either way, to repeat myself again, I did not say I was right or better and plainly stated my mixed feelings.