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> This sub-thread isn't really about what is legal (or illegal) in Europe or any other jurisdiction. It is about what is right. My argument wasn’t about whethe
by ivan_gammel 1y ago
> This sub-thread isn't really about what is legal (or illegal) in Europe or any other jurisdiction. It is about what is right.
My argument wasn’t about whether it’s legal or not. It’s discrimination, which is both illegal and wrong.
> when at the same time orgs are very obviously participating in actual discrimination
I don’t think so. Please provide evidence. Which orgs and where? In Germany all job postings explicitly say „(m/w/d)“ in title (male/female/diverse). I would be surprised to see any demographic-related constraints as they are easily challenged in court.
- fastball 1y agoYou brought up Europe, so I assumed you were making a legal argument. Right and wrong isn't dependent on the region you are in, imo. > In Germany all job postings explicitly say „(m/w/d)“ Great, and what is actually stopping someone from only hiring men, or only hiring women? Putting "m/w/d" in a job posting is performative nonsense. Jobs are not granted automatically when you interview, they are discretionary. It is trivially easy for someone with hiring authority to not hire a woman because they are a woman, and we shouldn't pretend otherwise.
- ivan_gammel 1y agoAre you making an excuse for discrimination in ads by saying that discrimination exists on later stages?
- fastball 1y agoAn excuse? Not really. I see no issue with discrimination in ads. Ads are not a public good / human right.