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So the aesthetics are bad. The execution is sloppy and it’s likely the people tasked with it are under trained and under supervised. But the outcome is the same

by nemo44x 11mo ago

So the aesthetics are bad. The execution is sloppy and it’s likely the people tasked with it are under trained and under supervised. But the outcome is the same otherwise. I don’t know if they’re trying to be mean or if they’re just trying to effectively hit their goals. It’s ruthless execution but that’s what’s taught in business school today. The citizens that are being wrongly violated will have their day and be compensated.

mjd 11mo ago
Adherence to the rule of law is not an “aesthetic”.
ryandrake 11mo ago
> The citizens that are being wrongly violated will have their day and be compensated. We really don't have any assurance of this, and all evidence of how the current administration operates says that they will be treated just as sloppily and ruthlessly. I don't buy the "undertrained/undersupervised" argument, either. If this were the case, we'd be seeing apologies for the mistakes by now, instead of silence and intimidation of media reporting on the "mistakes".
tastyface 11mo ago
"aesthetics are bad" = their leader is literally cosplaying as a Nazi: https://www.reddit.com/r/chicago/comments/1o55i0x/meet_gregory_bovino_local_gruppenf%C3%BChrer_in_charge/ https://www.reddit.com/r/chicago/comments/1o55i0x/meet_grego...
kdmtctl 11mo ago
The outcome is not the same. Regardless of how many will be deported, this will normalize the modus operandi. Been there. Aesthetic is crucial if you don't want it to be turned on you some day.
UncleMeat 11mo ago
> The citizens that are being wrongly violated will have their day and be compensated. I'm curious if you have done even cursory reading on all of the reasons why people whose rights are violated by federal and state officials are unable to sue for damages. The idea that people who get abused get a day in court and get justly compromised is an absolute fantasy.

by nemo44x 11mo ago

mjd 11mo ago

Adherence to the rule of law is not an “aesthetic”.

ryandrake 11mo ago

> The citizens that are being wrongly violated will have their day and be compensated. We really don't have any assurance of this, and all evidence of how the current administration operates says that they will be treated just as sloppily and ruthlessly. I don't buy the "undertrained/undersupervised" argument, either. If this were the case, we'd be seeing apologies for the mistakes by now, instead of silence and intimidation of media reporting on the "mistakes".

tastyface 11mo ago

"aesthetics are bad" = their leader is literally cosplaying as a Nazi: https://www.reddit.com/r/chicago/comments/1o55i0x/meet_gregory_bovino_local_gruppenf%C3%BChrer_in_charge/ https://www.reddit.com/r/chicago/comments/1o55i0x/meet_grego...

kdmtctl 11mo ago

The outcome is not the same. Regardless of how many will be deported, this will normalize the modus operandi. Been there. Aesthetic is crucial if you don't want it to be turned on you some day.

UncleMeat 11mo ago

> The citizens that are being wrongly violated will have their day and be compensated. I'm curious if you have done even cursory reading on all of the reasons why people whose rights are violated by federal and state officials are unable to sue for damages. The idea that people who get abused get a day in court and get justly compromised is an absolute fantasy.