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You can argue for or against mass-deportation as a policy. Fine. But the tactics are a choice, and at every turn, the current administration is deliberately cho
by ryandrake 1y ago
You can argue for or against mass-deportation as a policy. Fine. But the tactics are a choice, and at every turn, the current administration is deliberately choosing cruelty, fear, intimidation, violence, opaqueness, and grief.
In an alternate world, they could have still chosen to do mass-deportation, but also: 1. sent uniformed officers with arrest warrants, 2. who identify themselves clearly as officers, 3. who show their faces and badges, 4. who respectfully but firmly conduct the arrest, 5. transparently transport them for processing in marked police vehicles, 6. ensure innocent family members and bystanders are treated with dignity, protected and offered support, and 7. throughout the process operate nonviolently, respectfully, and adhere to due process.
Instead, they are deliberately choosing the opposite of this at every turn. No matter how mad you are about how previous administrations dealt with immigration, it doesn't excuse these tactics.
- nemo44x 1y agoSo the aesthetics are bad. The execution is sloppy and it’s likely the people tasked with it are under trained and under supervised. But the outcome is the same otherwise. I don’t know if they’re trying to be mean or if they’re just trying to effectively hit their goals. It’s ruthless execution but that’s what’s taught in business school today. The citizens that are being wrongly violated will have their day and be compensated.
- mjd 1y agoAdherence to the rule of law is not an “aesthetic”.
- ryandrake 1y ago> The citizens that are being wrongly violated will have their day and be compensated. We really don't have any assurance of this, and all evidence of how the current administration operates says that they will be treated just as sloppily and ruthlessly. I don't buy the "undertrained/undersupervised" argument, either. If this were the case, we'd be seeing apologies for the mistakes by now, instead of silence and intimidation of media reporting on the "mistakes".
- tastyface 1y ago"aesthetics are bad" = their leader is literally cosplaying as a Nazi: https://www.reddit.com/r/chicago/comments/1o55i0x/meet_gregory_bovino_local_gruppenf%C3%BChrer_in_charge/ https://www.reddit.com/r/chicago/comments/1o55i0x/meet_grego...
- kdmtctl 1y agoThe outcome is not the same. Regardless of how many will be deported, this will normalize the modus operandi. Been there. Aesthetic is crucial if you don't want it to be turned on you some day.
- UncleMeat 1y ago> The citizens that are being wrongly violated will have their day and be compensated. I'm curious if you have done even cursory reading on all of the reasons why people whose rights are violated by federal and state officials are unable to sue for damages. The idea that people who get abused get a day in court and get justly compromised is an absolute fantasy.