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A news station producer was arrested by ICE and the agents peeled away ripping off someone's bumper[0][1] just for her to be released later without charges. 0:

A news station producer was arrested by ICE and the agents peeled away ripping off someone's bumper[0][1] just for her to be released later without charges. 0: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/14/chicago-ice-tv-producer-arrest https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/14/chicago-ice-... 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLGI2hMaz5Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLGI2hMaz5Q

chasil 1y ago
I would say that any U.S. citizen living in an area of focus who is even vaguely latino and/or does not speak English well should obtain a U.S. "passport card" and carry it on their person at all times, as a federally issued ID. It's $65 for the first application, and $30 at renewals. In this context, the passport card is much more valuable than a state-issued ID. You know if your children should have them. A real passport at home is also wise, in case these ruffians "lose" the card. It is intolerable that U.S. citizens are detained in this way.
- mystraline 1y ago
  When the "do you belong here? " is a non-sarcastic adaptation of the Family guy skin color meme, no amount of 'proper IDs' will do shit. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/family-guy-skin-color-chart https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/family-guy-skin-color-chart
- testing22321 1y ago
  ICE have the official policy that no paperwork is sufficient to prove citizenship. The only source of truth it their biometrics app https://www.404media.co/you-cant-refuse-to-be-scanned-by-ices-facial-recognition-app-dhs-document-says/ https://www.404media.co/you-cant-refuse-to-be-scanned-by-ice...
  - chasil 1y ago
    That will certainly not work for children, as their faces change. I live in Illinois. Since Republican governor Ryan gave chauffers licenses to undocumented immigrants (resulting in fatalities), it is certain that an Illinois license is worthless. I had hoped that an ID issued by the U.S. Department of State would be a safeguard. Perhaps not, but wise to obtain both forms, for the judge.
    - testing22321 1y ago
      > That will certainly not work for children, as their faces change. I think that is the point.
      - EasyMark 1y ago
        That and they don't care. I think they are selected to be robots for the regime, and their training eventually expanded for all police work as a private army for the King. I don't believe that they are just for "ICE activities". Their budget dwarfs others like the DEA and CIA now with the "big bogus bill". Reminds me of certain other historical police force origins.
        ethbr1 1y ago
        > Their budget dwarfs others like the DEA and CIA now with the "big bogus bill" What numbers are you looking at? For reference, FY25 budgets: "CIA budget" (which isn't publicly split from the general IC top line authorizations): $73.4 B for NIP and $28.2 B for MIP https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IF10524 https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IF10524 ICE: $28.7 B (after OBBB increase) https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/big-budget-act-creates-deportation-industrial-complex https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/big-... DEA: $3.3 B https://bidenwhitehouse.archives.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/FY-2025-Budget-Highlights.pdf https://bidenwhitehouse.archives.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024...
    - Tadpole9181 1y ago
      Quite frankly, are you so naive as to think they give a shit? ICE is a gestapo and who they want to be illegal is illegal and can be whisked away. No consequences, no retaliation. They now have an all-knowing oracle who tells them the ultimate truth, all evidence be damned.
      - chasil 1y ago
        Then none of these documents are worth the paper upon which they are printed, and the advice has provable negative value? Do tell. https://www.nilc.org/resources/know-your-rights-expedited-removal-expansion/ https://www.nilc.org/resources/know-your-rights-expedited-re...
- Uehreka 1y ago
  I get that you’re trying to help, but trying to find a bureaucratic/technical workaround through original research and proffering it as advice is not a super helpful thing to do right now. At this phase of the game, the best advice you can give people is to follow immigration lawyers and long-time activists on social media and do what they advise. I know we’re all used to being the problem-solvers in the room, but this is a time where those of us without specific expertise need to take direction from those who do.
  - chasil 1y ago
    I get that you yourself have not researched this problem. These are worthless? Notice this section: "Carry with you evidence of lawful entry or current lawful status in the United States if you have it." https://www.nilc.org/resources/know-your-rights-expedited-removal-expansion/ https://www.nilc.org/resources/know-your-rights-expedited-re... Edit: I went to Medellín, Colombia recently, and going through immigration, I said that I was there for my birthday. The officer then asked me, "That was May xxth?" I responded, "No, my birthday is August yyth." She handed it back and waived me through. Anyone making a mistake with details will see greater scrutiny.
    - giraffe_lady 1y ago
      Please just take the good advice you were given. This response only proves how out of your depth you are here. We are currently trying to get my neighbor proof of citizenship so he can get out. He is a US citizen who had his passport on him when ICE took him. Now he has no passport.
      - chasil 1y ago
        This is precisely why the passport card should be carried, but the paper passport should be left at home.
        giraffe_lady 1y ago
        [flagged]

chasil 1y ago

I would say that any U.S. citizen living in an area of focus who is even vaguely latino and/or does not speak English well should obtain a U.S. "passport card" and carry it on their person at all times, as a federally issued ID. It's $65 for the first application, and $30 at renewals. In this context, the passport card is much more valuable than a state-issued ID. You know if your children should have them. A real passport at home is also wise, in case these ruffians "lose" the card. It is intolerable that U.S. citizens are detained in this way.

mystraline 1y ago
When the "do you belong here? " is a non-sarcastic adaptation of the Family guy skin color meme, no amount of 'proper IDs' will do shit. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/family-guy-skin-color-chart https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/family-guy-skin-color-chart
testing22321 1y ago
ICE have the official policy that no paperwork is sufficient to prove citizenship. The only source of truth it their biometrics app https://www.404media.co/you-cant-refuse-to-be-scanned-by-ices-facial-recognition-app-dhs-document-says/ https://www.404media.co/you-cant-refuse-to-be-scanned-by-ice...
- chasil 1y ago
  That will certainly not work for children, as their faces change. I live in Illinois. Since Republican governor Ryan gave chauffers licenses to undocumented immigrants (resulting in fatalities), it is certain that an Illinois license is worthless. I had hoped that an ID issued by the U.S. Department of State would be a safeguard. Perhaps not, but wise to obtain both forms, for the judge.
  - testing22321 1y ago
    > That will certainly not work for children, as their faces change. I think that is the point.
    - EasyMark 1y ago
      That and they don't care. I think they are selected to be robots for the regime, and their training eventually expanded for all police work as a private army for the King. I don't believe that they are just for "ICE activities". Their budget dwarfs others like the DEA and CIA now with the "big bogus bill". Reminds me of certain other historical police force origins.
      - ethbr1 1y ago
        > Their budget dwarfs others like the DEA and CIA now with the "big bogus bill" What numbers are you looking at? For reference, FY25 budgets: "CIA budget" (which isn't publicly split from the general IC top line authorizations): $73.4 B for NIP and $28.2 B for MIP https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IF10524 https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IF10524 ICE: $28.7 B (after OBBB increase) https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/big-budget-act-creates-deportation-industrial-complex https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/big-... DEA: $3.3 B https://bidenwhitehouse.archives.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/FY-2025-Budget-Highlights.pdf https://bidenwhitehouse.archives.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024...
  - Tadpole9181 1y ago
    Quite frankly, are you so naive as to think they give a shit? ICE is a gestapo and who they want to be illegal is illegal and can be whisked away. No consequences, no retaliation. They now have an all-knowing oracle who tells them the ultimate truth, all evidence be damned.
    - chasil 1y ago
      Then none of these documents are worth the paper upon which they are printed, and the advice has provable negative value? Do tell. https://www.nilc.org/resources/know-your-rights-expedited-removal-expansion/ https://www.nilc.org/resources/know-your-rights-expedited-re...
Uehreka 1y ago
I get that you’re trying to help, but trying to find a bureaucratic/technical workaround through original research and proffering it as advice is not a super helpful thing to do right now. At this phase of the game, the best advice you can give people is to follow immigration lawyers and long-time activists on social media and do what they advise. I know we’re all used to being the problem-solvers in the room, but this is a time where those of us without specific expertise need to take direction from those who do.
- chasil 1y ago
  I get that you yourself have not researched this problem. These are worthless? Notice this section: "Carry with you evidence of lawful entry or current lawful status in the United States if you have it." https://www.nilc.org/resources/know-your-rights-expedited-removal-expansion/ https://www.nilc.org/resources/know-your-rights-expedited-re... Edit: I went to Medellín, Colombia recently, and going through immigration, I said that I was there for my birthday. The officer then asked me, "That was May xxth?" I responded, "No, my birthday is August yyth." She handed it back and waived me through. Anyone making a mistake with details will see greater scrutiny.
  - giraffe_lady 1y ago
    Please just take the good advice you were given. This response only proves how out of your depth you are here. We are currently trying to get my neighbor proof of citizenship so he can get out. He is a US citizen who had his passport on him when ICE took him. Now he has no passport.
    - chasil 1y ago
      This is precisely why the passport card should be carried, but the paper passport should be left at home.
      - giraffe_lady 1y ago
        [flagged]