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> Certainly not the Linux / open-source crowd At least the local AI features, being able to translate or summarize a page without sending it off to Google, see

by Ukv 11mo ago

> Certainly not the Linux / open-source crowd At least the local AI features, being able to translate or summarize a page without sending it off to Google, seem like they'd appeal to this crowd the most. I don't really understand the article's complaints (like "high cpu & ram usage with firefox local ai features" and "forcing [...] without asking the user") when to my understanding they're something you have to intentionally decide to use and are not using any resources otherwise - unless there's some feature I've missed.

HappyPanacea 11mo ago
> At least the local AI features, being able to translate or summarize a page without sending it off to Google, seem like they'd appeal to this crowd the most. Yes I would like more local translation support! (Faster, better, more languages, sometimes it fails on mobile for unknown reasons). Also Firefox history could use refresh (like suggested here https://community.brave.app/t/improvements-for-browser-history-search-filtering-and-or-contextual-results-for-specific-dates/461219 https://community.brave.app/t/improvements-for-browser-histo... and 5 can be AI enhanced)
jchw 11mo ago
Local translation, sure. Summarization? No... For one thing, I don't use anything for that (does Google have a "Summarize This" feature now?) But unless I missed it, I don't even think this article disables the local translation feature. I'm pretty sure that is controlled by `browser.translations.enable`.
0manrho 11mo ago
Any AI features, helpful or no, seems to me like something that should exist in the form of an extension, not baked into the browser. Or, if baked in, should be opt in, not opt out by default, as regardless of where you fall on it, AI is a divisive topic and people have strong opinions on it. Especially the people in Firefoxes remaining small audience that tend to be more technically literate and privacy/security conscious. I have no problem with it announcing new features and asking if I wish to enable them after an update, but I'd really rather prefer it not to force enable new features (regardless of proximity/relevance to AI) whether it tells me about them up front - and especially don't want it to if they aren't even notifying me of it.

by Ukv 11mo ago

HappyPanacea 11mo ago

> At least the local AI features, being able to translate or summarize a page without sending it off to Google, seem like they'd appeal to this crowd the most. Yes I would like more local translation support! (Faster, better, more languages, sometimes it fails on mobile for unknown reasons). Also Firefox history could use refresh (like suggested here https://community.brave.app/t/improvements-for-browser-history-search-filtering-and-or-contextual-results-for-specific-dates/461219 https://community.brave.app/t/improvements-for-browser-histo... and 5 can be AI enhanced)

jchw 11mo ago

Local translation, sure. Summarization? No... For one thing, I don't use anything for that (does Google have a "Summarize This" feature now?) But unless I missed it, I don't even think this article disables the local translation feature. I'm pretty sure that is controlled by `browser.translations.enable`.

0manrho 11mo ago

Any AI features, helpful or no, seems to me like something that should exist in the form of an extension, not baked into the browser. Or, if baked in, should be opt in, not opt out by default, as regardless of where you fall on it, AI is a divisive topic and people have strong opinions on it. Especially the people in Firefoxes remaining small audience that tend to be more technically literate and privacy/security conscious. I have no problem with it announcing new features and asking if I wish to enable them after an update, but I'd really rather prefer it not to force enable new features (regardless of proximity/relevance to AI) whether it tells me about them up front - and especially don't want it to if they aren't even notifying me of it.