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I stopped releasing binaries for a number of my tools because I didn't want to pay the $100 a year for the right to do so, and I got tired of explaining how to

by donatj 11mo ago

I stopped releasing binaries for a number of my tools because I didn't want to pay the $100 a year for the right to do so, and I got tired of explaining how to run them without signing. The post I wrote to point people at anyway: https://donatstudios.com/mac-terminal-run-unsigned-binaries https://donatstudios.com/mac-terminal-run-unsigned-binaries

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lapcat 11mo ago
Note that the submitted article is about iOS, not macOS. The "notarization" process on iOS shares practically nothing with macOS except the name: https://developer.apple.com/help/app-store-connect/managing-alternative-distribution/submit-for-notarization/ https://developer.apple.com/help/app-store-connect/managing-... iOS notarization is just app review with fewer rules.
- hu3 11mo ago
  Doesn't it also require the same $100 annual fee?
  - lapcat 11mo ago
    Yes, the Apple developer program is $99 per year, but again, this has nothing to do with the submitted article.
    - hu3 11mo ago
      And a mac*
- archagon 11mo ago
  You can bet that Apple will pervert macOS notarization for app review just as soon as they can get away with it.
  - lapcat 11mo ago
    > just as soon as they can get away with it Who is stopping them currently?
    - archagon 11mo ago
      Developers would revolt if Apple introduced it right away. The steps will have to be gradual. But it’s pretty clear that the open, Unix-based Mac is an odd duck in Apple’s current lineup — and Apple is a company that likes to homogenize.
      - lapcat 11mo ago
        > Developers would revolt if Apple introduced it right away. What does "revolt" mean, exactly? I'm a developer myself, so I'd like to know what I would/should be doing? Keep in mind that a lot of Mac developers have iOS apps too, so they're accustomed to app review. > The steps will have to be gradual. Developer ID was introduced in 2012, and notarization was added in 2019. What are the next steps, and what is the timeline for them?
thatfrenchguy 11mo ago
easier to release the source code here and better for your customers right?
- donatj 11mo ago
  My stuff is all just free open source. No customers.

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lapcat 11mo ago

Note that the submitted article is about iOS, not macOS. The "notarization" process on iOS shares practically nothing with macOS except the name: https://developer.apple.com/help/app-store-connect/managing-alternative-distribution/submit-for-notarization/ https://developer.apple.com/help/app-store-connect/managing-... iOS notarization is just app review with fewer rules.

hu3 11mo ago
Doesn't it also require the same $100 annual fee?
- lapcat 11mo ago
  Yes, the Apple developer program is $99 per year, but again, this has nothing to do with the submitted article.
  - hu3 11mo ago
    And a mac*
archagon 11mo ago
You can bet that Apple will pervert macOS notarization for app review just as soon as they can get away with it.
- lapcat 11mo ago
  > just as soon as they can get away with it Who is stopping them currently?
  - archagon 11mo ago
    Developers would revolt if Apple introduced it right away. The steps will have to be gradual. But it’s pretty clear that the open, Unix-based Mac is an odd duck in Apple’s current lineup — and Apple is a company that likes to homogenize.
    - lapcat 11mo ago
      > Developers would revolt if Apple introduced it right away. What does "revolt" mean, exactly? I'm a developer myself, so I'd like to know what I would/should be doing? Keep in mind that a lot of Mac developers have iOS apps too, so they're accustomed to app review. > The steps will have to be gradual. Developer ID was introduced in 2012, and notarization was added in 2019. What are the next steps, and what is the timeline for them?

thatfrenchguy 11mo ago

easier to release the source code here and better for your customers right?

donatj 11mo ago
My stuff is all just free open source. No customers.