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I stopped using duckduckgo and switched to kagi shortly after the tankman fiasco[1]. Never been happier- if you want to support the continued existence of searc

by ajdude 11mo ago

I stopped using duckduckgo and switched to kagi shortly after the tankman fiasco[1]. Never been happier- if you want to support the continued existence of search, then pay for it. [1] Ask HN: “Tank man” image search blocked on Bing and DuckDuckGo 560 points by MaxHoppersGhost on June 4, 2021 | 126 comments | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27394925 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27394925

yegg 11mo ago
We never blocked this image and we would have no incentive to either since we’ve been banned in China since 2014. Here’s my statement from back then: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27528324 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27528324
dvntsemicolon 11mo ago
I just switched to Kagi. It's great
RamRodification 11mo ago
Kagi uses Russian search engine Yandex (EDIT: among several other sources) to produce search results, which means they pay them, which means indirectly sponsoring Russia's invasion of Ukraine. There are more or less valid arguments for not excluding Yandex[1], but as a European, I want to avoid any of my money going to Russia if possible. And there is no setting to exclude Yandex from your Kagi search results. If you stopped using duckduckgo because of the tankman fiasco, maybe you should reconsider if Kagi is right for you. [1] https://kagifeedback.org/d/5445-reconsider-yandex-integration-due-to-the-geopolitical-status-quo/19 https://kagifeedback.org/d/5445-reconsider-yandex-integratio...
- rvnx 11mo ago
  By definition it also means your search queries are sent to Yandex, which may be a problem if you are pasting sensitive data there and belong to a risk group
  - albumen 11mo ago
    Not by definition; from the Vlad response linked above: "we do not call all sources for all queries, as we balance cost efficiency with result quality - a delicate optimization". But I could understand how one may want to eliminate any possibility!
- verdverm 11mo ago
  Add Perplexity to the list, they are working with Trump & Truth Social
- pogue 11mo ago
  I'm honestly surprised they're legally allowed to do that. Isn't Yandex under sanctions and wouldn't paying them money as a US company fall under funding a sanctioned company? EDIT: Apparently not https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/103256/can-you-use-yandex-cloud-services-like-the-yandex-search-api-in-the-united-sta https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/103256/can-you-use-y...
InsideOutSanta 11mo ago
Second this. I finally gave up and subscribed to Kagi half a year ago, and man, I should have done it much sooner. The search results are just genuinely good. This is not like trying to use Bing, and then half the time you have to do the same search on Google because of how poor Bing's results are. It feels like Google felt fifteen years ago: useful results without all the "sponsored links" garbage around it.

by ajdude 11mo ago

yegg 11mo ago

We never blocked this image and we would have no incentive to either since we’ve been banned in China since 2014. Here’s my statement from back then: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27528324 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27528324

dvntsemicolon 11mo ago

I just switched to Kagi. It's great

RamRodification 11mo ago

Kagi uses Russian search engine Yandex (EDIT: among several other sources) to produce search results, which means they pay them, which means indirectly sponsoring Russia's invasion of Ukraine. There are more or less valid arguments for not excluding Yandex[1], but as a European, I want to avoid any of my money going to Russia if possible. And there is no setting to exclude Yandex from your Kagi search results. If you stopped using duckduckgo because of the tankman fiasco, maybe you should reconsider if Kagi is right for you. [1] https://kagifeedback.org/d/5445-reconsider-yandex-integration-due-to-the-geopolitical-status-quo/19 https://kagifeedback.org/d/5445-reconsider-yandex-integratio...

rvnx 11mo ago
By definition it also means your search queries are sent to Yandex, which may be a problem if you are pasting sensitive data there and belong to a risk group
- albumen 11mo ago
  Not by definition; from the Vlad response linked above: "we do not call all sources for all queries, as we balance cost efficiency with result quality - a delicate optimization". But I could understand how one may want to eliminate any possibility!
verdverm 11mo ago
Add Perplexity to the list, they are working with Trump & Truth Social
pogue 11mo ago
I'm honestly surprised they're legally allowed to do that. Isn't Yandex under sanctions and wouldn't paying them money as a US company fall under funding a sanctioned company? EDIT: Apparently not https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/103256/can-you-use-yandex-cloud-services-like-the-yandex-search-api-in-the-united-sta https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/103256/can-you-use-y...

InsideOutSanta 11mo ago

Second this. I finally gave up and subscribed to Kagi half a year ago, and man, I should have done it much sooner. The search results are just genuinely good. This is not like trying to use Bing, and then half the time you have to do the same search on Google because of how poor Bing's results are. It feels like Google felt fifteen years ago: useful results without all the "sponsored links" garbage around it.