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It is definitely "anti-javascript" or more precisely "anti-SPA". I've read the blog posts.

by xg15 1y ago

zelphirkalt 1y ago
JS != SPA though, no matter how many frontendies want to believe it is equivalent.
- brabel 1y ago
  It’s funny to equate JS with SPA. We’ve had JS on the web since day 1 to add interactivity to otherwise static pages. SPA only became a thing decades later.
  - fires10 1y ago
    ?? Since day1?
    - andai 1y ago
      Day 1505 by my count. Say, does anyone know Javascript's birthday?
      - someothherguyy 1y ago
        There was a pretty long gap between JS being created and people making significant use of it.
  - someothherguyy 1y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_HTML
  - michaelcampbell 1y ago
    I was there on day 1 of the web and js was not yet even a twinkle in anyone's eye.
oldestofsports 1y ago
Sorry but you must have read with your eyes closed. Here’s a quote from the HTMX website: ”After all, both htmx and hyperscript are built in JavaScript. We couldn’t have created these libraries without JavaScript, which, whatever else one might say, has the great virtue of being there. And we even go so far as to recommend using JavaScript for front-end scripting needs in a hypermedia-driven application, so long as you script in a hypermedia-friendly way. Further, we wouldn’t steer someone away from using JavaScript (or TypeScript) on the server side for a hypermedia-driven application, if that language is the best option for your team. As we said earlier, JavaScript now has multiple excellent server-side runtimes and many excellent server-side libraries available.” https://htmx.org/essays/hypermedia-on-whatever-youd-like/ https://htmx.org/essays/hypermedia-on-whatever-youd-like/
recursivedoubts 1y ago
htmx is pro-JavaScript: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZhmnfKD5PE https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZhmnfKD5PE It is not anti-SPA, but pro-hypermedia for the right problems: https://htmx.org/essays/when-to-use-hypermedia/ https://htmx.org/essays/when-to-use-hypermedia/ htmx is a front end library of peace

It is definitely "anti-javascript" or more precisely "anti-SPA". I've read the blog posts.

by xg15 1y ago

It is definitely "anti-javascript" or more precisely "anti-SPA". I've read the blog posts.

zelphirkalt 1y ago

JS != SPA though, no matter how many frontendies want to believe it is equivalent.

brabel 1y ago
It’s funny to equate JS with SPA. We’ve had JS on the web since day 1 to add interactivity to otherwise static pages. SPA only became a thing decades later.
- fires10 1y ago
  ?? Since day1?
  - andai 1y ago
    Day 1505 by my count. Say, does anyone know Javascript's birthday?
    - someothherguyy 1y ago
      There was a pretty long gap between JS being created and people making significant use of it.
- someothherguyy 1y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_HTML
- michaelcampbell 1y ago
  I was there on day 1 of the web and js was not yet even a twinkle in anyone's eye.

oldestofsports 1y ago

Sorry but you must have read with your eyes closed. Here’s a quote from the HTMX website: ”After all, both htmx and hyperscript are built in JavaScript. We couldn’t have created these libraries without JavaScript, which, whatever else one might say, has the great virtue of being there. And we even go so far as to recommend using JavaScript for front-end scripting needs in a hypermedia-driven application, so long as you script in a hypermedia-friendly way. Further, we wouldn’t steer someone away from using JavaScript (or TypeScript) on the server side for a hypermedia-driven application, if that language is the best option for your team. As we said earlier, JavaScript now has multiple excellent server-side runtimes and many excellent server-side libraries available.” https://htmx.org/essays/hypermedia-on-whatever-youd-like/ https://htmx.org/essays/hypermedia-on-whatever-youd-like/

recursivedoubts 1y ago

htmx is pro-JavaScript: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZhmnfKD5PE https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZhmnfKD5PE It is not anti-SPA, but pro-hypermedia for the right problems: https://htmx.org/essays/when-to-use-hypermedia/ https://htmx.org/essays/when-to-use-hypermedia/ htmx is a front end library of peace