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No I'm literally saying - she writes fiction- how can you plagiarize a fiction book and make it work lol (I have no knowledge / context of this situation - no

• typpilol 1y ago
  You can't plagiarize fiction? So if I copy paste Harry Potter that's ok? What kind of argument is that
  • jasonjmcghee 1y ago
    Absolutely not saying this or making this argument. I just don't see how this could possibly work - how would slapping Harry Potter in the middle of the book your writing work
    • sarchertech 1y ago
      Instead of slapping Harry Potter in the middle of your book wholesale, imagine you lifted a few really good lines from Harry Potter, a few from Lord of the Rings, and more from a handful of other books. Read the evidence document another poster linked for actual examples.
      • 1718627440 1y ago
        To me as a dumb reader, that would be fine, maybe the author could have mentioned that he likes these authors and takes them as inspirations. Also you can't really forbid books to never have references to pop culture. And at some level of famous-ness passages and ideas loose their exclusive tie to the original book and become part of the list of common cultural sayings.
        • sarchertech 1y ago
          >could have mentioned Well plagiarism by definition means passing the work off as your own without crediting the author, so in that case it isn’t plagiarism. References to pop culture are the same as lifting sentences from other books and pretending you wrote them. > And at some level of famous-ness passages and ideas loose their exclusive tie to the original book and become part of the list of common cultural sayings In the actual case being examined the copied references certainly hadn’t reached any such level of famousness. Also there’s a difference between having a character tell another “not all those who wander are lost” as a clear reference to a famous quote from LOTR and copying multiple paragraph length deep cuts to pass off as your own work.
          • 1718627440 1y ago
            > Well plagiarism by definition means passing the work off as your own without crediting the author, so in that case it isn’t plagiarism. Of course, but wrote 'could' and not 'should' for a reason, I won't expect it. A book isn't a paper and the general expectation is that the book will be interesting or fun to read and not that it is original. That means the general expectation is not that it is never a rehash of existing ideas. I think ever book including all the good ones is. A book that invents the world from scratch might be novel, but unlikely what people want to read. > copying multiple paragraph length deep cuts to pass off as your own work. If that is true, it sounds certainly fishy, but that is a case of violation of copyright and intellectual property and not of plagiarism.
            • sarchertech 1y ago
              > That means the general expectation is not that it is never a rehash of existing ideas. There’s a different from rehashing existing ideas and copying multiple passages off as your own. > If that is true, it sounds certainly fishy, but that is a case of violation of copyright and intellectual property and not of plagiarism. What exactly do you think plagiarism is? Here’s one common definition: “An instance of plagiarizing, especially a passage that is taken from the work of one person and reproduced in the work of another without attribution.”
• jibal 1y ago
  You don't seem to know what plagiarism is.
  • jasonjmcghee 1y ago
    I'm struggling to understand the circumstance you'd plagiarize fiction - you can literally write anything you want. Why steal someone else's writing and slap it in your book? It'll either stand out and be weird / stilted or you took the time to make it work somehow in which case you probably rewrote it and so why steal in the first place? Or like use allegory instead? Obviously it shouldn't be done in any circumstance