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That is a direct paraphrase of the abstract of Kruger & Dunning, 1999[1]: "The authors suggest that this overestimation occurs, in part, because people who are
by tovej 1y ago
That is a direct paraphrase of the abstract of Kruger & Dunning, 1999[1]:
"The authors suggest that this overestimation occurs, in part, because people who are unskilled in these domains suffer a dual burden: Not only do these people reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices, but their incompetence robs them of the metacognitive ability to realize it."
Now, it may be possible that the definition has evolved since then, but as the term Dunning-Kruger effect is named after this paper, I think it's safe to say that Wikipedia is at least partially wrong in this case.
[1] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10626367/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10626367/
- ntonozzi 1y agoYou're misinterpreting the quote. Unskilled people overestimate how skilled they are, but they still understand that they are unskilled. They just don't know quite how unskilled. What Kruger & Dunning actually showed is that people tend to skew their estimates of their skill towards being slightly above average.
- tovej 1y agoAbove average is not unskilled. That does not compute for me. The point is clearly about how lack of skill/experience in a task make people bad at judging how they do at the task. That is clearly what the article Kruger and Dunning) and the article (OP) are both saying. You could help your argument by explaining how I'm misinterpreting the quote.
- ntonozzi 1y agoCheck out this graphic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect#/media/File:Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_Effect2.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect#... This is the only thing Dunning-Kruger found. Actual performance is correlated with perceived performance, mediated by the fact that everyone thinks they are a bit above average.