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If you're a parent then act like one. You're perfectly able to enact that ban yourself - why do you need the governments help?

by porsager 11mo ago

owisd 11mo ago
you can take a teen’s phone off them and they can just walk into a store and buy an inexpensive second hand handset and use the WiFi from a local cafe.
- JoshTriplett 11mo ago
  And if they do it with their own money, it's their phone. Children prior to 18 are not subhuman. If you're old enough to buy your own phone, you're old enough to decide whether and how to use it.
  - Der_Einzige 11mo ago
    The idea of treating under 18s like they are human is extremely undesirable in the USA because it among other things opens up a lot of doctors to be held accountable for their participation in the mass mutilation of baby boys. It also holds a whole lot of physically abusive parents to a standard where their children could call CPS and get their parents in legal trouble for corporal punishment. Of course, these are indeed good things in worlds that don't endorse physical violence as the primary method to enforce control. This is why Finland his tail docking, ear cropping, animal crating, corporal punishment, circumcision, etc bans and why the US South is so ruthless.
    - LEDThereBeLight 11mo ago
      This is unhinged.
    - lurking_swe 11mo ago
      what did i just read
      - Der_Einzige 11mo ago
        You are also impacted by the real life ketar SCP object that keeps the masses not caring that millions of baby boys in the USA get mutilated shortly after birth. I am not. One day, that object will be found, shut down and destroyed. I hope you eventually see the error in your current sensibilities.
  - phatfish 11mo ago
    Are you a parent?
EarthMephit 11mo ago
You could make that exact same argument for alcohol, cigarettes, prescription medication - The reasons are the same.
- raw_anon_1111 11mo ago
  And because of the laws, it has stopped children from smoking, drinking and abusing drugs. The entire war on drugs has been such a success.
  - phatfish 11mo ago
    Of course age laws have worked. Adults are the smokers, drinkers and drug abusers. Do you want a situation with kids being drunk in school because they can just go to a shop during break and get a bottle of Vodka, no questions asked?
    - raw_anon_1111 11mo ago
      Really? 30%+ of teenagers smoke weed https://www.cuimc.columbia.edu/news/everything-you-and-your-teenager-should-know-about-cannabis https://www.cuimc.columbia.edu/news/everything-you-and-your-... Statistics for drinking https://www.responsibility.org/alcohol-statistics/underage-drinking-statistics/ https://www.responsibility.org/alcohol-statistics/underage-d... Even when I was in school in the 90s high schoolers were sneaking and smoking during school
  - buu700 11mo ago
    To be fair, the "War on Tobacco" has actually been a huge success[1]. I've been saying for years that we should end the War on Drugs in its current form and extend tobacco policy to other drugs. If you're old enough to drink, smoke, and get shipped off to a warzone, who is anyone else to tell you that you don't deserve the freedom to buy a bottle of pharmaceutical-grade heroin at CVS and shoot it up in the privacy of your own home? But because we collectively insist on infantilizing ourselves, hundreds of billions of dollars per year are redirected from the pharma industry to black market criminal syndicates. Instead of funding medical research and stock buybacks, we're actively choosing to fund global chaos and mass atrocities. We could stop tomorrow, and it would cost us nothing. In fact, it would save the US billions of dollars in annual losses at all levels of government and generate billions of dollars in annual tax revenue, all of which could be used to fund things like addiction treatment services, law enforcement, and border security. 1: https://www.lung.org/research/trends-in-lung-disease/tobacco-trends-brief/overall-smoking-trends https://www.lung.org/research/trends-in-lung-disease/tobacco...

If you're a parent then act like one. You're perfectly able to enact that ban yourself - why do you need the governments help?

owisd 11mo ago

you can take a teen’s phone off them and they can just walk into a store and buy an inexpensive second hand handset and use the WiFi from a local cafe.

JoshTriplett 11mo ago
And if they do it with their own money, it's their phone. Children prior to 18 are not subhuman. If you're old enough to buy your own phone, you're old enough to decide whether and how to use it.
- Der_Einzige 11mo ago
  The idea of treating under 18s like they are human is extremely undesirable in the USA because it among other things opens up a lot of doctors to be held accountable for their participation in the mass mutilation of baby boys. It also holds a whole lot of physically abusive parents to a standard where their children could call CPS and get their parents in legal trouble for corporal punishment. Of course, these are indeed good things in worlds that don't endorse physical violence as the primary method to enforce control. This is why Finland his tail docking, ear cropping, animal crating, corporal punishment, circumcision, etc bans and why the US South is so ruthless.
  - LEDThereBeLight 11mo ago
    This is unhinged.
  - lurking_swe 11mo ago
    what did i just read
    - Der_Einzige 11mo ago
      You are also impacted by the real life ketar SCP object that keeps the masses not caring that millions of baby boys in the USA get mutilated shortly after birth. I am not. One day, that object will be found, shut down and destroyed. I hope you eventually see the error in your current sensibilities.
- phatfish 11mo ago
  Are you a parent?

EarthMephit 11mo ago

You could make that exact same argument for alcohol, cigarettes, prescription medication - The reasons are the same.

raw_anon_1111 11mo ago
And because of the laws, it has stopped children from smoking, drinking and abusing drugs. The entire war on drugs has been such a success.
- phatfish 11mo ago
  Of course age laws have worked. Adults are the smokers, drinkers and drug abusers. Do you want a situation with kids being drunk in school because they can just go to a shop during break and get a bottle of Vodka, no questions asked?
  - raw_anon_1111 11mo ago
    Really? 30%+ of teenagers smoke weed https://www.cuimc.columbia.edu/news/everything-you-and-your-teenager-should-know-about-cannabis https://www.cuimc.columbia.edu/news/everything-you-and-your-... Statistics for drinking https://www.responsibility.org/alcohol-statistics/underage-drinking-statistics/ https://www.responsibility.org/alcohol-statistics/underage-d... Even when I was in school in the 90s high schoolers were sneaking and smoking during school
- buu700 11mo ago
  To be fair, the "War on Tobacco" has actually been a huge success[1]. I've been saying for years that we should end the War on Drugs in its current form and extend tobacco policy to other drugs. If you're old enough to drink, smoke, and get shipped off to a warzone, who is anyone else to tell you that you don't deserve the freedom to buy a bottle of pharmaceutical-grade heroin at CVS and shoot it up in the privacy of your own home? But because we collectively insist on infantilizing ourselves, hundreds of billions of dollars per year are redirected from the pharma industry to black market criminal syndicates. Instead of funding medical research and stock buybacks, we're actively choosing to fund global chaos and mass atrocities. We could stop tomorrow, and it would cost us nothing. In fact, it would save the US billions of dollars in annual losses at all levels of government and generate billions of dollars in annual tax revenue, all of which could be used to fund things like addiction treatment services, law enforcement, and border security. 1: https://www.lung.org/research/trends-in-lung-disease/tobacco-trends-brief/overall-smoking-trends https://www.lung.org/research/trends-in-lung-disease/tobacco...