Yes I definitely agree that a lot of the problem is rooted in the type of people (or even just management, who knows ?) that get hired there nowadays. But my t

Yes I definitely agree that a lot of the problem is rooted in the type of people (or even just management, who knows ?) that get hired there nowadays. But my thinking is that the language maybe makes things worse ? If you hire people that already are not that competent and force them to use a language that is harder to master it cannot help. Something I have noted is that many "OG" Mac indie devs have complained about the language and their software quality seems to have gone done a bit as well (but it may have to do with the framework churn as well...). But yeah, clearly it's impossible to really know from an external observer point of view.