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This is what I always say about Valve. They are not morally unimpeachable, but at the end of the day I've been a regular customer for over 20 years and they've

by caconym_ 11mo ago

This is what I always say about Valve. They are not morally unimpeachable, but at the end of the day I've been a regular customer for over 20 years and they've never fucked me over. I don't think I can say the same about any other software company.

mrguyorama 11mo ago
And most importantly, the moment they show any indication of doing otherwise, I will happily drop them. I keep giving Valve my money because they keep giving me good value for that money and a trustworthy environment to spend that money in. I have no loyalty. I also buy games from Humble Bundle and GOG. I'm not excited about the prospect of losing my 4000 games but the literal only options available for consumers right now are "Pay money and get a game that we can take away at any time, fuck you over, do all sorts of bad things, and we demonstrably hate you", or "Pay money to get a game and a refund period and a bunch of features and maybe when Gabe dies we will do that other thing" There is no alternative. GOG is run by the same people who released CyberPunk2077 as a bug ridden mess to please upper management, so they even have evidence of already straddling that line right now.
- omnimus 11mo ago
  I am not sure why GOG is bad. Then again i am not sure why Cyberpunk is bad - i played it recently for the first time and its pretty fine game.
  - blub 11mo ago
    It’s an amazing game. They released buggy because of management pressure, but fixed it. GOG is also amazing.
  - jeffwask 11mo ago
    I played 3 times finished twice. 1.0 was 5/10 (quit after a few days) 1.5 was 7/10 (finished) Phantom Liberty was a 9/10 (finished) It took 2 full years of additional development for 2077 to be in the amazing state it is in now.
    - mrguyorama 11mo ago
      I have qualms with supporting "They purposely released it unfinished and broken to get significant revenue and only then fixed it" though. It's a terrible incentive for the industry and why I still refuse to buy No Man's Sky. It's essentially the concept of early access but lying about not being early access.
      - jeffwask 11mo ago
        I was super salty about it for a few years, but I had already bought it so...

mrguyorama 11mo ago

And most importantly, the moment they show any indication of doing otherwise, I will happily drop them. I keep giving Valve my money because they keep giving me good value for that money and a trustworthy environment to spend that money in. I have no loyalty. I also buy games from Humble Bundle and GOG. I'm not excited about the prospect of losing my 4000 games but the literal only options available for consumers right now are "Pay money and get a game that we can take away at any time, fuck you over, do all sorts of bad things, and we demonstrably hate you", or "Pay money to get a game and a refund period and a bunch of features and maybe when Gabe dies we will do that other thing" There is no alternative. GOG is run by the same people who released CyberPunk2077 as a bug ridden mess to please upper management, so they even have evidence of already straddling that line right now.

omnimus 11mo ago
I am not sure why GOG is bad. Then again i am not sure why Cyberpunk is bad - i played it recently for the first time and its pretty fine game.
- blub 11mo ago
  It’s an amazing game. They released buggy because of management pressure, but fixed it. GOG is also amazing.
- jeffwask 11mo ago
  I played 3 times finished twice. 1.0 was 5/10 (quit after a few days) 1.5 was 7/10 (finished) Phantom Liberty was a 9/10 (finished) It took 2 full years of additional development for 2077 to be in the amazing state it is in now.
  - mrguyorama 11mo ago
    I have qualms with supporting "They purposely released it unfinished and broken to get significant revenue and only then fixed it" though. It's a terrible incentive for the industry and why I still refuse to buy No Man's Sky. It's essentially the concept of early access but lying about not being early access.
    - jeffwask 11mo ago
      I was super salty about it for a few years, but I had already bought it so...