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The play by major content providers is "not to pay" and "block inter.link" Sure, you lose Vodafone germany. Then you explain clearly why to every major media.

The play by major content providers is "not to pay" and "block inter.link" Sure, you lose Vodafone germany. Then you explain clearly why to every major media. This coukd be stopped fairly quickly.

TulliusCicero 1y ago
Blocking seems overkill. Just put up a banner explaining why the service is slow, warning customers about their ISPs.
- Spivak 1y ago
  Because a banner is ignorable. A block will actually spur action.
  - TulliusCicero 1y ago
    A banner by itself is very ignorable, but in this case the website is going to be annoyingly slow, and people are gonna notice that and be thinking a little about why. In that scenario, they're much more likely to notice and pay attention to something like a banner.
preya2k 1y ago
Doesn’t seem to work in regards to Deutsche Telekom so far.
noAnswer 1y ago
"The play by major content providers" like Google? Where in order to become a "Verified Peering Provider" you are not permitted to use a IX?! https://peering.google.com/#/options/verified-peering-provider https://peering.google.com/#/options/verified-peering-provid...
- inemesitaffia 1y ago
  The restriction is only to Google. 1299, a Google gold partner is at IXes
  - noAnswer 1y ago
    You know who else is gold partner and at IXes?! Inter.link! https://inter.link/google-verified-peering-provider/ https://inter.link/google-verified-peering-provider/ "As Google discontinues its direct peering agreements at Internet Exchanges worldwide" Wait... does that mean that "Google is killing the open internet?!" Quick "write" a AI rage bait article about it.
    - PhilKunz 1y ago
      I've learned quite a bit from the comments here, also got to see perspectives I wasn't focusing on. I've since then added a bit to the article about how one could be in favour of the deal. To be more transparent about changes, version history is coming to coffee.link. The question I'm having is: Where exactly do inter.link and Google peer? Like either they are both at a public IXP (which would mean Google is not actually discontinuing peering, or you'd have to really define the "direct" in that quoted sentence), or one has a fiber cable to one of the others DC? How does that work? Any insights?
      - inemesitaffia 1y ago
        An ixp is a switching fabric not a building(NAP). At the same building where you connected with Vodafone in the past, you connect to interlink instead. Instead of one to many you connect one to one. Just to clarify one thing, the fact that's you're connected to an ixp doesn't automatically mean you have to accept any routes or traffic over it. And yes some of them allow you to sell/buy transit over the IXP fabric so instead of buying one connection for transit and another for settlement free pairing over the IXP, you do all that over one physical connection

The play by major content providers is "not to pay" and "block inter.link" Sure, you lose Vodafone germany. Then you explain clearly why to every major media. This coukd be stopped fairly quickly.

TulliusCicero 1y ago

Blocking seems overkill. Just put up a banner explaining why the service is slow, warning customers about their ISPs.

Spivak 1y ago
Because a banner is ignorable. A block will actually spur action.
- TulliusCicero 1y ago
  A banner by itself is very ignorable, but in this case the website is going to be annoyingly slow, and people are gonna notice that and be thinking a little about why. In that scenario, they're much more likely to notice and pay attention to something like a banner.

preya2k 1y ago

Doesn’t seem to work in regards to Deutsche Telekom so far.

noAnswer 1y ago

"The play by major content providers" like Google? Where in order to become a "Verified Peering Provider" you are not permitted to use a IX?! https://peering.google.com/#/options/verified-peering-provider https://peering.google.com/#/options/verified-peering-provid...

inemesitaffia 1y ago
The restriction is only to Google. 1299, a Google gold partner is at IXes
- noAnswer 1y ago
  You know who else is gold partner and at IXes?! Inter.link! https://inter.link/google-verified-peering-provider/ https://inter.link/google-verified-peering-provider/ "As Google discontinues its direct peering agreements at Internet Exchanges worldwide" Wait... does that mean that "Google is killing the open internet?!" Quick "write" a AI rage bait article about it.
  - PhilKunz 1y ago
    I've learned quite a bit from the comments here, also got to see perspectives I wasn't focusing on. I've since then added a bit to the article about how one could be in favour of the deal. To be more transparent about changes, version history is coming to coffee.link. The question I'm having is: Where exactly do inter.link and Google peer? Like either they are both at a public IXP (which would mean Google is not actually discontinuing peering, or you'd have to really define the "direct" in that quoted sentence), or one has a fiber cable to one of the others DC? How does that work? Any insights?
    - inemesitaffia 1y ago
      An ixp is a switching fabric not a building(NAP). At the same building where you connected with Vodafone in the past, you connect to interlink instead. Instead of one to many you connect one to one. Just to clarify one thing, the fact that's you're connected to an ixp doesn't automatically mean you have to accept any routes or traffic over it. And yes some of them allow you to sell/buy transit over the IXP fabric so instead of buying one connection for transit and another for settlement free pairing over the IXP, you do all that over one physical connection