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To this day, whenever I see Machine Learning abbreviated, my heart skips a beat, then I become crestfallen as I realize I'm not about to read something about Me

by pohl 11mo ago

To this day, whenever I see Machine Learning abbreviated, my heart skips a beat, then I become crestfallen as I realize I'm not about to read something about Meta Language.

PaulHoule 11mo ago
ML blew my mind back in the late 1980s when I got to use it on a 80286 machine for the first time!
kjmh 11mo ago
ML refers to Meta Language and LLM refers to Languages and Logic Montreal [0], a PL theory group. [0] https://llm.uqam.ca https://llm.uqam.ca
- embedding-shape 11mo ago
  > PL theory group I know there are great many Polish people in the world, but why it matters so much in this case? They could have been any nationality, even French!
  - pluralmonad 11mo ago
    I believe many people use PL to mean programming language. I'm wondering if your joke just wooshed me.
    - embedding-shape 11mo ago
      You believe I'd purposefully misread an abbreviation in a comment about misreading abbreviations, and also coincidentally tried to make fun of two other nationalities (maybe even three, depending on political views), all at the same time? I would never.
    - crdrost 11mo ago
      I mean pohl's joke above whooshed kjmh so it's all fine. The important thing for threads like this one is for us to name drop all of the weird programming languages that we have used, publicly avow the greatness of ones that we have not, and make a New Year's resolution that we will never follow, to actually pick up those great languages and write something in them...
      - bigstrat2003 11mo ago
        > make a New Year's resolution that we will never follow, to actually pick up those great languages and write something in them... Why must you call me out in this way? How did I wrong you, that I deserve this?
seanw444 11mo ago
I'd rather have that issue than seeing "AI" plastered all over the place. I'm of the opinion AI should be reserved for artificial general intelligence. These things aren't intelligent yet. They're just em-bloat-ified traditional machine learning techniques. Not that they're useless. I just hate the terminology. If people start using the term AI, we better be living in I, Robot. Not whatever the hell this is. Tangential rant. Sorry.
- crdrost 11mo ago
  We lost this fight at least by 1994 when Sun acquired “Thinking Machines,” which to its credit was bankrupting itself by making highly parallel supercomputers, at least. Now of course there is a new AI company of the same name. If the wrestling world echoes the computing world, one can only wonder what in 5-10 years will be the equivalent of Undertaker throwing Mankind off of Hell In A Cell to plummet 16 feet down through an announcer’s table...
- timeon 11mo ago
  I also think AK would fit better.
  - fuzztester 11mo ago
    AK-42
- afiori 11mo ago
  I believe that current publicly available Ais are more intelligent than a non trivial fraction of adults.
jrh3 11mo ago
Thanks for posting about ML! I made a post similar to yours a couple of years ago and got downvoted, lol.

by pohl 11mo ago

To this day, whenever I see Machine Learning abbreviated, my heart skips a beat, then I become crestfallen as I realize I'm not about to read something about Meta Language.

PaulHoule 11mo ago

ML blew my mind back in the late 1980s when I got to use it on a 80286 machine for the first time!

kjmh 11mo ago

ML refers to Meta Language and LLM refers to Languages and Logic Montreal [0], a PL theory group. [0] https://llm.uqam.ca https://llm.uqam.ca

embedding-shape 11mo ago
> PL theory group I know there are great many Polish people in the world, but why it matters so much in this case? They could have been any nationality, even French!
- pluralmonad 11mo ago
  I believe many people use PL to mean programming language. I'm wondering if your joke just wooshed me.
  - embedding-shape 11mo ago
    You believe I'd purposefully misread an abbreviation in a comment about misreading abbreviations, and also coincidentally tried to make fun of two other nationalities (maybe even three, depending on political views), all at the same time? I would never.
  - crdrost 11mo ago
    I mean pohl's joke above whooshed kjmh so it's all fine. The important thing for threads like this one is for us to name drop all of the weird programming languages that we have used, publicly avow the greatness of ones that we have not, and make a New Year's resolution that we will never follow, to actually pick up those great languages and write something in them...
    - bigstrat2003 11mo ago
      > make a New Year's resolution that we will never follow, to actually pick up those great languages and write something in them... Why must you call me out in this way? How did I wrong you, that I deserve this?

seanw444 11mo ago

I'd rather have that issue than seeing "AI" plastered all over the place. I'm of the opinion AI should be reserved for artificial general intelligence. These things aren't intelligent yet. They're just em-bloat-ified traditional machine learning techniques. Not that they're useless. I just hate the terminology. If people start using the term AI, we better be living in I, Robot. Not whatever the hell this is. Tangential rant. Sorry.

crdrost 11mo ago
We lost this fight at least by 1994 when Sun acquired “Thinking Machines,” which to its credit was bankrupting itself by making highly parallel supercomputers, at least. Now of course there is a new AI company of the same name. If the wrestling world echoes the computing world, one can only wonder what in 5-10 years will be the equivalent of Undertaker throwing Mankind off of Hell In A Cell to plummet 16 feet down through an announcer’s table...
timeon 11mo ago
I also think AK would fit better.
- fuzztester 11mo ago
  AK-42
afiori 11mo ago
I believe that current publicly available Ais are more intelligent than a non trivial fraction of adults.

jrh3 11mo ago

Thanks for posting about ML! I made a post similar to yours a couple of years ago and got downvoted, lol.