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I get 50% AI generated tai chi promising strength gain, weight loss and enlightenment, the other 50% israel sponsored ads assuring me people in gaza are not sta

I get 50% AI generated tai chi promising strength gain, weight loss and enlightenment, the other 50% israel sponsored ads assuring me people in gaza are not starving at all and completely healthy

ben_w 1y ago
Had a few of those too. Mostly, I'm getting things like German ads for my local German supermarket (that I would've gone to anyway without the ad) dubbed badly into English with an AI that can't tell how to pronounce the "." in a price, plus a Berlin-specific "pay less rent" company that I couldn't use even if I wanted to because I don't rent. But when I get 30 seconds of ads a minute into a video that had 30 seconds of ads before I could start watching… I don't care what the rest of the video was going to be about, I don't want to waste my life with a 30:60:30:… pattern of adverts and "content" whose sole real purpose is now to keep me engaged with the adverts. (This is also half of why I don't bother going to Facebook, every third post is an ad, although those ads can't even tell if I'm a boy or a girl, which language I speak, nor what my nationality is, and the first-party suggested groups are just as bad but grosser as they recently suggested I join groups for granny dating, zit popping, and Elon Musk).
bluedino 1y ago
Remember broadcast TV, early in the morning or late at night? Infomercials for all kinds of scams from buying real estate with zero down, crap products that didn't work...
- RajT88 1y ago
  It's still like that! Late Night Broadcast TV still exists and is as weird as it ever was! Arguably weirder, since stuff like this is on sometimes: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15737708/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15737708/ It's a low-budget horror host show which was made for streaming, and coincidentally ended up on the air late on Friday nights.
- asadotzler 1y ago
  None of those scams were intermixed with popular legitimate content. If Facebook had a tab at the top called "Scams and Other Nonsense" and you clicked on that and it had a bunch of scammy content, that would be an equivalent to late night infomercials. But Meta doesn't do that. It mixes the scams in with all of its popular and non-scam content so you cannot easily tell it's scammy. Worse, it targets people vulnerable to those scams by tapping directly into their interests and sentiments in a way TV never could. You are making a silly argument here. There's no equivalence at all.
  - bluedino 1y ago
    They had popular non-scam content like music collections. Sounds of the 80's etc. Time life music and all that. Ron Popeils cooking gadgets. Then you had guys like Kevin Trudeau and Don Lapre.
yard2010 1y ago
Haha it goes both ways!
iammrpayments 1y ago
I get a lot of ads from unicef asking money to send good to Gaza so I’m not sure how they target users
zahlman 1y ago
> israel sponsored ads assuring me people in gaza are not starving at all and completely healthy I've never seen anything like this and I see the reverse quite a bit.
- whamlastxmas 1y ago
  I only ever see "Pray for the people of Israel" ads which is basically thinly veiled "fuck Palestine" messaging
  - doctorpangloss 1y ago
    if only there were some websites, an Ads Library or Ads Transparency Center of some kind, where people could easily verify any or all of this
    - vkou 1y ago
      Would anything change if there were?
      - progval 1y ago
        There is: https://adstransparency.google.com/ https://adstransparency.google.com/
      - deleted 1y ago
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    - whamlastxmas 1y ago
      This is the exact billboard that came to mind for me, I drove by it daily for a long time https://old.reddit.com/r/Israel/comments/1bmdy03/someone_in_my_city_apparently_graffitied_a/ https://old.reddit.com/r/Israel/comments/1bmdy03/someone_in_... There were many other similar ones, especially on the smaller digital ad spaces that were basically just TVs on the side of roads. And those ones were more specifically calling for empathy for the deaths occurring to Israeli people during the war on Palestine
colechristensen 1y ago
I pay for YouTube so all I get is paid creator promotions for VPNs and Squarespace unless it's someone being sent a free thing in exchange for a review Normalize paying for things instead of selling your attention to the highest bidder.
- cryptoegorophy 1y ago
  Buying YouTube premium is the single best online decision one can make.
  - BLKNSLVR 1y ago
    So, now we should all pay money to avoid being advertised scams? That's a pretty good scam.
  - gishh 1y ago
    I choose to not watch YouTube. I was born in the 80s, am a software engineer, and I’ve watched maybe 10 total hours of YouTube, all 100% of those hours were car-repair related.
- reaperducer 1y ago
  Normalize paying for things instead of selling your attention to the highest bidder. But you just admitted that you pay for YouTube and it shows you creator promotions. You are literally paying to see ads, then telling people not to do the same. Unless there's some subtlety I'm missing here. I haven't been on YouTube in at least a decade. I see no difference between a blogger pushing a VPN and Google showing an ad for a VPN. The big draw for cable TV was that you could watch TV without ads. Then ads started appearing on cable and people said it's OK, because the content is higher quality and not available elsewhere. Then that changed, and now there is no difference between broadcast, cable/satellite, and streaming services. Except that you don't have to pay for broadcast. (Yet. It's coming.)
  - jldugger 1y ago
    > Unless there's some subtlety I'm missing here. I haven't been on YouTube in at least a decade. Youtube Premium is fighting back against the sponsor segments with this "commonly skipped segment" feature. You hit a fast forward button and it automatically skips ahead to the place most people jumped to.
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I get 50% AI generated tai chi promising strength gain, weight loss and enlightenment, the other 50% israel sponsored ads assuring me people in gaza are not starving at all and completely healthy

ben_w 1y ago

Had a few of those too. Mostly, I'm getting things like German ads for my local German supermarket (that I would've gone to anyway without the ad) dubbed badly into English with an AI that can't tell how to pronounce the "." in a price, plus a Berlin-specific "pay less rent" company that I couldn't use even if I wanted to because I don't rent. But when I get 30 seconds of ads a minute into a video that had 30 seconds of ads before I could start watching… I don't care what the rest of the video was going to be about, I don't want to waste my life with a 30:60:30:… pattern of adverts and "content" whose sole real purpose is now to keep me engaged with the adverts. (This is also half of why I don't bother going to Facebook, every third post is an ad, although those ads can't even tell if I'm a boy or a girl, which language I speak, nor what my nationality is, and the first-party suggested groups are just as bad but grosser as they recently suggested I join groups for granny dating, zit popping, and Elon Musk).

bluedino 1y ago

Remember broadcast TV, early in the morning or late at night? Infomercials for all kinds of scams from buying real estate with zero down, crap products that didn't work...

RajT88 1y ago
It's still like that! Late Night Broadcast TV still exists and is as weird as it ever was! Arguably weirder, since stuff like this is on sometimes: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15737708/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15737708/ It's a low-budget horror host show which was made for streaming, and coincidentally ended up on the air late on Friday nights.
asadotzler 1y ago
None of those scams were intermixed with popular legitimate content. If Facebook had a tab at the top called "Scams and Other Nonsense" and you clicked on that and it had a bunch of scammy content, that would be an equivalent to late night infomercials. But Meta doesn't do that. It mixes the scams in with all of its popular and non-scam content so you cannot easily tell it's scammy. Worse, it targets people vulnerable to those scams by tapping directly into their interests and sentiments in a way TV never could. You are making a silly argument here. There's no equivalence at all.
- bluedino 1y ago
  They had popular non-scam content like music collections. Sounds of the 80's etc. Time life music and all that. Ron Popeils cooking gadgets. Then you had guys like Kevin Trudeau and Don Lapre.

yard2010 1y ago

Haha it goes both ways!

iammrpayments 1y ago

I get a lot of ads from unicef asking money to send good to Gaza so I’m not sure how they target users

zahlman 1y ago

> israel sponsored ads assuring me people in gaza are not starving at all and completely healthy I've never seen anything like this and I see the reverse quite a bit.

whamlastxmas 1y ago
I only ever see "Pray for the people of Israel" ads which is basically thinly veiled "fuck Palestine" messaging
- doctorpangloss 1y ago
  if only there were some websites, an Ads Library or Ads Transparency Center of some kind, where people could easily verify any or all of this
  - vkou 1y ago
    Would anything change if there were?
    - progval 1y ago
      There is: https://adstransparency.google.com/ https://adstransparency.google.com/
    - deleted 1y ago
      [deleted]
  - whamlastxmas 1y ago
    This is the exact billboard that came to mind for me, I drove by it daily for a long time https://old.reddit.com/r/Israel/comments/1bmdy03/someone_in_my_city_apparently_graffitied_a/ https://old.reddit.com/r/Israel/comments/1bmdy03/someone_in_... There were many other similar ones, especially on the smaller digital ad spaces that were basically just TVs on the side of roads. And those ones were more specifically calling for empathy for the deaths occurring to Israeli people during the war on Palestine

colechristensen 1y ago

I pay for YouTube so all I get is paid creator promotions for VPNs and Squarespace unless it's someone being sent a free thing in exchange for a review Normalize paying for things instead of selling your attention to the highest bidder.

cryptoegorophy 1y ago
Buying YouTube premium is the single best online decision one can make.
- BLKNSLVR 1y ago
  So, now we should all pay money to avoid being advertised scams? That's a pretty good scam.
- gishh 1y ago
  I choose to not watch YouTube. I was born in the 80s, am a software engineer, and I’ve watched maybe 10 total hours of YouTube, all 100% of those hours were car-repair related.
reaperducer 1y ago
Normalize paying for things instead of selling your attention to the highest bidder. But you just admitted that you pay for YouTube and it shows you creator promotions. You are literally paying to see ads, then telling people not to do the same. Unless there's some subtlety I'm missing here. I haven't been on YouTube in at least a decade. I see no difference between a blogger pushing a VPN and Google showing an ad for a VPN. The big draw for cable TV was that you could watch TV without ads. Then ads started appearing on cable and people said it's OK, because the content is higher quality and not available elsewhere. Then that changed, and now there is no difference between broadcast, cable/satellite, and streaming services. Except that you don't have to pay for broadcast. (Yet. It's coming.)
- jldugger 1y ago
  > Unless there's some subtlety I'm missing here. I haven't been on YouTube in at least a decade. Youtube Premium is fighting back against the sponsor segments with this "commonly skipped segment" feature. You hit a fast forward button and it automatically skips ahead to the place most people jumped to.

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