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I do think there would be revolution. People don't have another billionaire bailout in them, it would break the system

V__ 1y ago
If anything that is already happening doesn't result in one, then one bailout more also won't.
techblueberry 1y ago
I agree, but I think the fortunes of the Trump administration are too tied up with the stock market for them to just let them fail. Obviously “shmail out” was a joke, but there is some truth to the idea. Because whatever it is can’t look like a bail out, it has to look like the private markets saved themselves.
- treetalker 1y ago
  overpaying for stakes in the companies, mayhaps
tekbruh9000 1y ago
The problem with the revolution talk is too few know how to "work to live". Only 4% hunt in the US anymore. When is the last time you sewed a shirt? Grew a carrot? 100 years ago everyone had manual labor skills, even the rich. Musk and Zuckerberg live the same prisoner's dilemma. Our lived experience informs us revolution is certain doom as we watch ourselves live daily routines that only require the smallest obligation to ourselves; eat, shower, sleep, computer. ~84% live less than 100 miles from their childhood home. Americans are fine being sedate and cared for despite the rhetoric they're rugged individuals. Office workers need to learn how to grow potatoes and rotate a tire first. The best kind of revolt would be a methodical Luigi style pruning. Simpsons made that joke 20+ years ago; you'd have to kill 50 CEOs to see certain changes[1]. That's included here to demonstrate how normal and old the issue is. Inflation since 1980 is 297%. Slow steady deflation of buying power into helplessness was not an accident. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/simpsonsshitposting/comments/1hios5o/thank_you_meathook/ https://www.reddit.com/r/simpsonsshitposting/comments/1hios5...
- zerosizedweasle 1y ago
  It's not a rational response. If you think the game is unfair and you are losing, you always have the option to kick over the board. When people feel things are unfair they do radical things.
  - tekbruh9000 1y ago
    Nah, we don't have that luxury anymore. I mean in a vacuum of data yes sure it's a physical possibility. But we have polls of public opinion and those polled express concern for their lives and story so far. There is no simple binary choice. Inequality has been growing for decades. We've been discussing the unfairness the entire time. No revolutions.
- krustyburger 1y ago
  https://frinkiac.com/caption/S11E08/1028360 https://frinkiac.com/caption/S11E08/1028360 The actual Simpsons joke had nothing to with either health care or CEOs. That subreddit is for making memes around classic Simpsons references, not a repository for them. If you can’t even get the Simpsons right, I’m more than skeptical of the various statistics you cited but didn’t bother providing sources for.
  - tekbruh9000 1y ago
    [flagged]
    - krustyburger 1y ago
      Except that you completely misunderstood the joke. It’s at the expense of the character that thought killing was the way to achieve progress. And you cited a post-Luigi meme using The Simpsons as evidence of something having been mainstream during the time of The Simpsons. With a fancy citation and everything!
      - tekbruh9000 1y ago
PeterStuer 1y ago
Divide and conquer seems to have been a pretty effective diffuser of descent last time. Why do you think it won't work this time around?
- pengaru 1y ago
  > Divide and conquer seems to have been a pretty effective diffuser of descent last time. Why do you think it won't work this time around? nit: dissent
  - PeterStuer 1y ago
    Thx. My dislexia strikes again. In before: No. It is not because English is not my native language. My spelling is actually worse in Dutch, amd I do not mind whatsoever people pointing out my misspellings.

V__ 1y ago

If anything that is already happening doesn't result in one, then one bailout more also won't.

I agree, but I think the fortunes of the Trump administration are too tied up with the stock market for them to just let them fail. Obviously “shmail out” was a joke, but there is some truth to the idea. Because whatever it is can’t look like a bail out, it has to look like the private markets saved themselves.

treetalker 1y ago
overpaying for stakes in the companies, mayhaps

tekbruh9000 1y ago

The problem with the revolution talk is too few know how to "work to live". Only 4% hunt in the US anymore. When is the last time you sewed a shirt? Grew a carrot? 100 years ago everyone had manual labor skills, even the rich. Musk and Zuckerberg live the same prisoner's dilemma. Our lived experience informs us revolution is certain doom as we watch ourselves live daily routines that only require the smallest obligation to ourselves; eat, shower, sleep, computer. ~84% live less than 100 miles from their childhood home. Americans are fine being sedate and cared for despite the rhetoric they're rugged individuals. Office workers need to learn how to grow potatoes and rotate a tire first. The best kind of revolt would be a methodical Luigi style pruning. Simpsons made that joke 20+ years ago; you'd have to kill 50 CEOs to see certain changes[1]. That's included here to demonstrate how normal and old the issue is. Inflation since 1980 is 297%. Slow steady deflation of buying power into helplessness was not an accident. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/simpsonsshitposting/comments/1hios5o/thank_you_meathook/ https://www.reddit.com/r/simpsonsshitposting/comments/1hios5...

zerosizedweasle 1y ago
It's not a rational response. If you think the game is unfair and you are losing, you always have the option to kick over the board. When people feel things are unfair they do radical things.
- tekbruh9000 1y ago
  Nah, we don't have that luxury anymore. I mean in a vacuum of data yes sure it's a physical possibility. But we have polls of public opinion and those polled express concern for their lives and story so far. There is no simple binary choice. Inequality has been growing for decades. We've been discussing the unfairness the entire time. No revolutions.
krustyburger 1y ago
https://frinkiac.com/caption/S11E08/1028360 https://frinkiac.com/caption/S11E08/1028360 The actual Simpsons joke had nothing to with either health care or CEOs. That subreddit is for making memes around classic Simpsons references, not a repository for them. If you can’t even get the Simpsons right, I’m more than skeptical of the various statistics you cited but didn’t bother providing sources for.
- tekbruh9000 1y ago
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  - krustyburger 1y ago
    Except that you completely misunderstood the joke. It’s at the expense of the character that thought killing was the way to achieve progress. And you cited a post-Luigi meme using The Simpsons as evidence of something having been mainstream during the time of The Simpsons. With a fancy citation and everything!
    - tekbruh9000 1y ago

PeterStuer 1y ago

Divide and conquer seems to have been a pretty effective diffuser of descent last time. Why do you think it won't work this time around?

pengaru 1y ago
> Divide and conquer seems to have been a pretty effective diffuser of descent last time. Why do you think it won't work this time around? nit: dissent
- PeterStuer 1y ago
  Thx. My dislexia strikes again. In before: No. It is not because English is not my native language. My spelling is actually worse in Dutch, amd I do not mind whatsoever people pointing out my misspellings.