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You don't need to split into two equal sides to have a civil war. You can start having terrorist organizations that are able to obtain weapons with help from th

by mrtksn 1y ago

You don't need to split into two equal sides to have a civil war. You can start having terrorist organizations that are able to obtain weapons with help from these billionaires to do acts that serve their agenda. They can fly people to private military companies for warfare training. Not necessarily everyone will be fighting everyone, you can end up having an organization doing very bad things and some of the population that has grievances(real or induced through information shaping) supporting it. At first the non-supporting side will demand to suspend some liberties to fix the security issues which very easily(the every bit of controversy or imperfection will do that) can deepen the divide and increase the support for the other side. The tenser it gets the more extreme politicians will raise and a feedback loop will be formed that will tear down the country. For now they are just shaping the information landscape to convince people that certain very bad things are happening and that they need to take action but let's say they start providing the material and the training, who's going to stop them? They happen to be close allies of a much larger country's administration that built a reputation for disdain towards the rule of law. If a Billionaire finances the shipping a few thousand rifles and explosive to UK in drug induced rage night, will the UK politicians and law enforcement or the intelligence services be able to do anything about that? So IMHO the premise isn't implausible at all. These things happen all over the world, all those civil war torn countries are fighting with real military grade weapons being shipped to them from Europe, Russia and USA. At this very time CIA is apparently trying to orchestrate something like that in Venezuela, it's not even secret, Trump recently authorized covert CIA operation in Venezuela and Trump's claim that Venezuela is doin something similar in USA isn't implausible either: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/15/us/politics/trump-covert-cia-action-venezuela.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/15/us/politics/trump-covert-... Once you have enough distrust in the society, others can do a lot of things to that society.

graemep 1y ago
> You can start having terrorist organizations that are able to obtain weapons with help from these billionaires to do acts that serve their agenda. I lived in Sri Lanka during part of its civil war. It started as a terrorism, The backing came not billionaires but ordinary people: rising ethnic tensions caused by terrorism increased the support the separatists had, and an overseas diaspora able to fund them was hugely expanded by people fleeing the civil war - and became more willing to do so in reaction to race riots and the like. > If a Billionaire finances the shipping a few thousand rifles and explosive to UK in drug induced rage night, will the UK politicians and law enforcement or the intelligence services be able to do anything about that? I think they would. its a crime, and its very hard to maintain secrecy at the scale needed to distribute large numbers of weapons. The IRA had thousands of rifles and stocks of ammunition. Islamic terrorists have billionaire backers. Neither has been able to scale up beyond bombings and similar small scale attacks in mainland Britain. The IRA were able to in Northern Ireland, but that was with a large proportion of the population backing their cause (though not necessarily their use of violence).
tim333 1y ago
>If a Billionaire finances the shipping a few thousand rifles and explosive to UK ... will the UK politicians and law enforcement or the intelligence services be able to do anything about that? They would certainly have a go. I wouldn't recommend to Musk or similar to try that one.

by mrtksn 1y ago

graemep 1y ago

> You can start having terrorist organizations that are able to obtain weapons with help from these billionaires to do acts that serve their agenda. I lived in Sri Lanka during part of its civil war. It started as a terrorism, The backing came not billionaires but ordinary people: rising ethnic tensions caused by terrorism increased the support the separatists had, and an overseas diaspora able to fund them was hugely expanded by people fleeing the civil war - and became more willing to do so in reaction to race riots and the like. > If a Billionaire finances the shipping a few thousand rifles and explosive to UK in drug induced rage night, will the UK politicians and law enforcement or the intelligence services be able to do anything about that? I think they would. its a crime, and its very hard to maintain secrecy at the scale needed to distribute large numbers of weapons. The IRA had thousands of rifles and stocks of ammunition. Islamic terrorists have billionaire backers. Neither has been able to scale up beyond bombings and similar small scale attacks in mainland Britain. The IRA were able to in Northern Ireland, but that was with a large proportion of the population backing their cause (though not necessarily their use of violence).

tim333 1y ago

>If a Billionaire finances the shipping a few thousand rifles and explosive to UK ... will the UK politicians and law enforcement or the intelligence services be able to do anything about that? They would certainly have a go. I wouldn't recommend to Musk or similar to try that one.