> First, ICE has no authority over US citizens. They've detained quite a number of them, which would be impossible if they had no authority over them. (Also, w

> First, ICE has no authority over US citizens. They've detained quite a number of them, which would be impossible if they had no authority over them. (Also, while a lot of the time “ICE” is used as shorthand, the objections are generally to the actions the administration characterizes as immigration enforcement as a whole—to which a sizable portion of most US federal law enforcement agencies have been redirected from their usual duties, with ICE and Border Patrol taking the most highly-visible roles, not to ICE specifically.) > So on that note alone they are not a police force. A police force whose nominal focus is a particular subset of the population (including, e.g., noncitizens) is still a police force. > Second, they still operate under the law, specially INA 236-287. T Having law which nominally governs their behavior is not contrary to being a police force, regular or secret. In fact, I think you will not find any example of such a force for which this is not true. > Funny enough Trump has made quite a show of ICE but has yet to top Obama’s numbers. The objection is not the numbers (by which i assume you mean the aggregate count of deportations), but primarily to the changes in methodology and focus. > I’m old enough to remember ICE forming and Obama. ICE was a product of the reorganization of federal national security and law enforcement bureaucracy under George W. Bush, not Obama. > I don’t remember people complaining and protesting about door kickers back then. Maybe because the other team was doing it? ICE specifically and the entire Department of Homeland Security has been a target of protests, objection, and vilification since it was formed.