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>Microsoft admits in French court it can't keep EU data safe from US authorities Snowden leaked that fact before Microsoft made the admission. But it's good th
by yupyupyups 11mo ago
>Microsoft admits in French court it can't keep EU data safe from US authorities
Snowden leaked that fact before Microsoft made the admission. But it's good that it's coming from them officially nonetheless.
- tokai 11mo agoIt kind felt like the ramifications of Snowden's leak were so wast that everyone just chose to forget about it.
- realusername 11mo agoThere's definitely a political game of pretending that the US clouds are somehow compatible with GDPR.
- jojobas 11mo agoThey are most likely compatible until a national security letter arrives. An American company then has to choose which law to comply with, and it's an easy choice.
- immibis 11mo agoThat's what makes them incompatible. But companies can be a lot shadier than we give them credit for. Like, remember that "wink payment" contract between Google and Israel? If Google knew what they were doing, they accepted the contract to do the illegal thing, so they'd sell their product and get money, but they were planning to simply not do the illegal thing, breaking the contract (the customer would never know and if they somehow did, you can't stop using a cloud on a dime) but not breaking any laws. If Microsoft knows what they're doing, they'll accept contracts from EU customers that say "we will never give your data to US authorities", they break it immediately, don't tell the customer and the customer never finds out. Alternatively, they can give the US government a bunch of nothing, in order to comply with the EU customer contract, and pretend this is all the data the customer had on their account. I doubt this will happen though.
- 1718627440 11mo agoThere were ruled incompatible every time, this was brought to the courts.
- bayindirh 11mo agoIIUC Snowden sent complete trove to two publications only, and one of the computers containing the trove is destroyed through and through, disabling that publication for Snowden leaks. Moreover, again as I understand, after a certain point the leaks are stopped, because the message was sent, and people now know the most important bits behind the curtain.
- KaiserPro 11mo agoTheres a difference between as an intelligence organisation having access to data, and "someone in power is angry because they watched a TV advert, I want to see what they know" but, your over all picture is still, sadly correct.
- pureagave 11mo agoFor most of my life I also used to think there was a difference between the two. But now I realized they are actually just the same.
- shreddit 11mo agoThey couldn’t be more different. One is doing it in secrecy and for a “reason”, to spy on someone. The other one will do it in public because he can and doesn’t like your name.
- statguy 11mo agodoes it matter if you are the one on the receiving end?
- Waterluvian 11mo agoWhich of these is meant to represent the current regime in power in the U.S.?
- lmm 11mo ago> One is doing it in secrecy and for a “reason”, to spy on someone. When it's secret, how can you ever check? Even if it was just because the person on top or in the middle had a personal judge, they'll always say it was for legitimate spying purposes and no-one has any way to call them out.
- KaiserPro 11mo agoI understand the disillusionment. The gutting of the US machinery of state is disheartening to see.