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> I do wonder how many people would buy non-spy versions of devices given the option. Depending on the discount for the spyware version, I'd guess close to zer

by smt88 1y ago

> I do wonder how many people would buy non-spy versions of devices given the option. Depending on the discount for the spyware version, I'd guess close to zero. The general public has become completely numb to being spied on. It's hard to get someone to give up $50 (a real cost) for something nebulous like "very slightly less of your life is known by marketing companies".

potato3732842 1y ago
You vastly over-estimate the average ROI per user being spied on.
chipsrafferty 1y ago
I'd pay for it if I could somehow know that they also deleted all the data they tracked in the past (impossible since they already sold it 100x)
godelski 1y ago
> It's hard to get someone to give up $50 (a real cost) for something nebulous like "very slightly less of your life is known by marketing companies". I'd gladly pay that price. I'm pretty sure there's a large number of us that would. It's easy to make claims like yours without the real world data. To believe that things are the way they are because that's the most efficient way. Back justification is not logical. Idk about you, but I frequently make mistakes and need to redo things. I'm pretty confident it's just because I'm human and not an omniscient god. Also, I'd suspect it might be more than $50. We didn't create a surveillance capitalist economy with trillion dollar businesses that resulted in everything including your vacuum spying on you because your data isn't valuable. Clearly it is... The problem more is that people don't understand how that data is used and can be used. Which I don't blame anyone for that. It's abstract and honestly sounds like the stuff of tin foil hat conspiracy theorists. But at the same time, here we are. The point of ads is to manipulate you to buy things. Which isn't always bought with money. We have several multi trillion dollar companies and I'm pretty sure they don't exist for nothing

by smt88 1y ago

potato3732842 1y ago

You vastly over-estimate the average ROI per user being spied on.

chipsrafferty 1y ago

I'd pay for it if I could somehow know that they also deleted all the data they tracked in the past (impossible since they already sold it 100x)

godelski 1y ago

> It's hard to get someone to give up $50 (a real cost) for something nebulous like "very slightly less of your life is known by marketing companies". I'd gladly pay that price. I'm pretty sure there's a large number of us that would. It's easy to make claims like yours without the real world data. To believe that things are the way they are because that's the most efficient way. Back justification is not logical. Idk about you, but I frequently make mistakes and need to redo things. I'm pretty confident it's just because I'm human and not an omniscient god. Also, I'd suspect it might be more than $50. We didn't create a surveillance capitalist economy with trillion dollar businesses that resulted in everything including your vacuum spying on you because your data isn't valuable. Clearly it is... The problem more is that people don't understand how that data is used and can be used. Which I don't blame anyone for that. It's abstract and honestly sounds like the stuff of tin foil hat conspiracy theorists. But at the same time, here we are. The point of ads is to manipulate you to buy things. Which isn't always bought with money. We have several multi trillion dollar companies and I'm pretty sure they don't exist for nothing