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It should be a constitutional amendment that congress and the president get no pay during a shutdown (with no back pay) and pay a $1000 / day fine for each day

It should be a constitutional amendment that congress and the president get no pay during a shutdown (with no back pay) and pay a $1000 / day fine for each day that it remains closed. And shutdown for a month should trigger elections.

watwut 1y ago
President is getting richer and richer evrry day from crypto and deals with familly.
- mlrtime 1y ago
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  - watwut 1y ago
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  - hypeatei 1y ago
    Pelosi ran her own cryptocurrency meme coin where transactions can't be tied to a specific person? Oh right, no, she publicly disclosed stock trades that literally everyone else in Congress is doing as well. How does running a meme coin, that anyone in the world can "invest" in while you're President, compare to an insider stock trade?
    - terminalshort 1y ago
      Nobody is saying Nancy Pelosi is as good at corruption as Donald Trump is, but she is just as corrupt. This is why The Democrats' attacks on Trump don't work. If you steal $100 you don't get to be outraged at the guy who steals $1 million.
      - hypeatei 1y ago
        > but she is just as corrupt. This is why The Democrats' attacks on Trump don't work. If you steal $100 you don't get to be outraged at the guy who steals $1 million. Is this satire? If not, that's completely delusional and really a poor attempt at covering for Dear Leader. Adhering to the law and reporting stock trades is not the same as: running a cryptocurrency that can't be traced (Trump coin), running a mobile service provider while you control regulators (Trump mobile), pardoning a convicted fraudster for aiding/supporting your crypto schemes (Zhao pardon), saying you'll put a foreign leader in contact with your son for family business dealings (Indonesia and Eric Trump), and being gifted a $400M jet by Qatar. But sure, let's pretend these people are just as corrupt as each other. Especially when Trump explicitly campaigned on "draining the swamp" or whatever and his minions are now trying to change the subject and go: "but Pelosi!!!" The only reason you're even able to push this BS is because they're following the law and publicly disclosing these trades. Who is influencing Trump via his meme coin and various business dealings? We may never know.
        senordevnyc 1y ago
        She's not just as corrupt, but she is definitely corrupt. Those trades have to be disclosed, but she gets 45 days to do so, and it seems blindingly obvious that she's using insider info to front run the market. It's disgusting, and I say that as someone who loathes Trump and is unlikely to ever vote for another Republican again after the last decade. That doesn't mean Pelosi isn't corrupt, it means our system allows for corruption.
        hypeatei 1y ago
        I never said she isn't corrupt but insider trading has been a talking point long before this unprecedented corruption we're seeing in the Whitehouse. These whataboutisms are pointless and disavowing the behavior literally does nothing unless the other side clearly disavows their leader (Trump) which they have yet to do. I'll take Republicans/MAGAs seriously in their supposed effort to "drain the swamp" when he is held accountable.
        terminalshort 1y ago
        You can make a "I'm bad, but he's worse" argument and be effective. But it's gotta be calm and rational. "I may take $100 from you here and there, but that guy, he'll take everything you got. Trust me, you don't want him" works. But if you act morally outraged, then you just come off as full of shit.
jjav 1y ago
> And shutdown for a month should trigger elections. I'd be more strict and say shutdown on day 1 trigger reelection for all senate and congress seats and the president & VP. Get everyone out. It's not like they don't know this is coming months in advance, so there is no excuse at all to fail at their job which is negotiating a compromise.
duxup 1y ago
I feel like that would only harm a "poorer" president and give an advantage to rich presidents. Had the same discussion about state reps in my state. Pay them less as a punishment means you just get folks doing the job who are a specific demographic. Others simply can't...

watwut 1y ago

President is getting richer and richer evrry day from crypto and deals with familly.

mlrtime 1y ago
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- watwut 1y ago
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- hypeatei 1y ago
  Pelosi ran her own cryptocurrency meme coin where transactions can't be tied to a specific person? Oh right, no, she publicly disclosed stock trades that literally everyone else in Congress is doing as well. How does running a meme coin, that anyone in the world can "invest" in while you're President, compare to an insider stock trade?
  - terminalshort 1y ago
    Nobody is saying Nancy Pelosi is as good at corruption as Donald Trump is, but she is just as corrupt. This is why The Democrats' attacks on Trump don't work. If you steal $100 you don't get to be outraged at the guy who steals $1 million.
    - hypeatei 1y ago
      > but she is just as corrupt. This is why The Democrats' attacks on Trump don't work. If you steal $100 you don't get to be outraged at the guy who steals $1 million. Is this satire? If not, that's completely delusional and really a poor attempt at covering for Dear Leader. Adhering to the law and reporting stock trades is not the same as: running a cryptocurrency that can't be traced (Trump coin), running a mobile service provider while you control regulators (Trump mobile), pardoning a convicted fraudster for aiding/supporting your crypto schemes (Zhao pardon), saying you'll put a foreign leader in contact with your son for family business dealings (Indonesia and Eric Trump), and being gifted a $400M jet by Qatar. But sure, let's pretend these people are just as corrupt as each other. Especially when Trump explicitly campaigned on "draining the swamp" or whatever and his minions are now trying to change the subject and go: "but Pelosi!!!" The only reason you're even able to push this BS is because they're following the law and publicly disclosing these trades. Who is influencing Trump via his meme coin and various business dealings? We may never know.
      - senordevnyc 1y ago
        She's not just as corrupt, but she is definitely corrupt. Those trades have to be disclosed, but she gets 45 days to do so, and it seems blindingly obvious that she's using insider info to front run the market. It's disgusting, and I say that as someone who loathes Trump and is unlikely to ever vote for another Republican again after the last decade. That doesn't mean Pelosi isn't corrupt, it means our system allows for corruption.
        hypeatei 1y ago
        I never said she isn't corrupt but insider trading has been a talking point long before this unprecedented corruption we're seeing in the Whitehouse. These whataboutisms are pointless and disavowing the behavior literally does nothing unless the other side clearly disavows their leader (Trump) which they have yet to do. I'll take Republicans/MAGAs seriously in their supposed effort to "drain the swamp" when he is held accountable.
      - terminalshort 1y ago
        You can make a "I'm bad, but he's worse" argument and be effective. But it's gotta be calm and rational. "I may take $100 from you here and there, but that guy, he'll take everything you got. Trust me, you don't want him" works. But if you act morally outraged, then you just come off as full of shit.

jjav 1y ago

> And shutdown for a month should trigger elections. I'd be more strict and say shutdown on day 1 trigger reelection for all senate and congress seats and the president & VP. Get everyone out. It's not like they don't know this is coming months in advance, so there is no excuse at all to fail at their job which is negotiating a compromise.

duxup 1y ago

I feel like that would only harm a "poorer" president and give an advantage to rich presidents. Had the same discussion about state reps in my state. Pay them less as a punishment means you just get folks doing the job who are a specific demographic. Others simply can't...