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I bet the assholes responsible for shutdown would solve the problem in an instant if they were to start losing money. But they are of course shielded from harm

by FpUser 11mo ago

I bet the assholes responsible for shutdown would solve the problem in an instant if they were to start losing money. But they are of course shielded from harm done to the rest of the population.

esseph 11mo ago
Most of the establishment are rich enough to not care, but more junior representatives would suffer.
terminalshort 11mo ago
It should be a constitutional amendment that congress and the president get no pay during a shutdown (with no back pay) and pay a $1000 / day fine for each day that it remains closed. And shutdown for a month should trigger elections.
- watwut 11mo ago
  President is getting richer and richer evrry day from crypto and deals with familly.
  - mlrtime 11mo ago
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    - watwut 11mo ago
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    - hypeatei 11mo ago
      Pelosi ran her own cryptocurrency meme coin where transactions can't be tied to a specific person? Oh right, no, she publicly disclosed stock trades that literally everyone else in Congress is doing as well. How does running a meme coin, that anyone in the world can "invest" in while you're President, compare to an insider stock trade?
      - terminalshort 11mo ago
        Nobody is saying Nancy Pelosi is as good at corruption as Donald Trump is, but she is just as corrupt. This is why The Democrats' attacks on Trump don't work. If you steal $100 you don't get to be outraged at the guy who steals $1 million.
        hypeatei 11mo ago
        > but she is just as corrupt. This is why The Democrats' attacks on Trump don't work. If you steal $100 you don't get to be outraged at the guy who steals $1 million. Is this satire? If not, that's completely delusional and really a poor attempt at covering for Dear Leader. Adhering to the law and reporting stock trades is not the same as: running a cryptocurrency that can't be traced (Trump coin), running a mobile service provider while you control regulators (Trump mobile), pardoning a convicted fraudster for aiding/supporting your crypto schemes (Zhao pardon), saying you'll put a foreign leader in contact with your son for family business dealings (Indonesia and Eric Trump), and being gifted a $400M jet by Qatar. But sure, let's pretend these people are just as corrupt as each other. Especially when Trump explicitly campaigned on "draining the swamp" or whatever and his minions are now trying to change the subject and go: "but Pelosi!!!" The only reason you're even able to push this BS is because they're following the law and publicly disclosing these trades. Who is influencing Trump via his meme coin and various business dealings? We may never know.
        senordevnyc 11mo ago
        She's not just as corrupt, but she is definitely corrupt. Those trades have to be disclosed, but she gets 45 days to do so, and it seems blindingly obvious that she's using insider info to front run the market. It's disgusting, and I say that as someone who loathes Trump and is unlikely to ever vote for another Republican again after the last decade. That doesn't mean Pelosi isn't corrupt, it means our system allows for corruption.
        hypeatei 11mo ago
        I never said she isn't corrupt but insider trading has been a talking point long before this unprecedented corruption we're seeing in the Whitehouse. These whataboutisms are pointless and disavowing the behavior literally does nothing unless the other side clearly disavows their leader (Trump) which they have yet to do. I'll take Republicans/MAGAs seriously in their supposed effort to "drain the swamp" when he is held accountable.
- jjav 11mo ago
  > And shutdown for a month should trigger elections. I'd be more strict and say shutdown on day 1 trigger reelection for all senate and congress seats and the president & VP. Get everyone out. It's not like they don't know this is coming months in advance, so there is no excuse at all to fail at their job which is negotiating a compromise.
- duxup 11mo ago
  I feel like that would only harm a "poorer" president and give an advantage to rich presidents. Had the same discussion about state reps in my state. Pay them less as a punishment means you just get folks doing the job who are a specific demographic. Others simply can't...
speed_spread 11mo ago
It would become a war of attrition where the richest win because they can afford to.

by FpUser 11mo ago

I bet the assholes responsible for shutdown would solve the problem in an instant if they were to start losing money. But they are of course shielded from harm done to the rest of the population.

esseph 11mo ago

Most of the establishment are rich enough to not care, but more junior representatives would suffer.

terminalshort 11mo ago

It should be a constitutional amendment that congress and the president get no pay during a shutdown (with no back pay) and pay a $1000 / day fine for each day that it remains closed. And shutdown for a month should trigger elections.

watwut 11mo ago
President is getting richer and richer evrry day from crypto and deals with familly.
- mlrtime 11mo ago
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  - watwut 11mo ago
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  - hypeatei 11mo ago
    Pelosi ran her own cryptocurrency meme coin where transactions can't be tied to a specific person? Oh right, no, she publicly disclosed stock trades that literally everyone else in Congress is doing as well. How does running a meme coin, that anyone in the world can "invest" in while you're President, compare to an insider stock trade?
    - terminalshort 11mo ago
      Nobody is saying Nancy Pelosi is as good at corruption as Donald Trump is, but she is just as corrupt. This is why The Democrats' attacks on Trump don't work. If you steal $100 you don't get to be outraged at the guy who steals $1 million.
      - hypeatei 11mo ago
        > but she is just as corrupt. This is why The Democrats' attacks on Trump don't work. If you steal $100 you don't get to be outraged at the guy who steals $1 million. Is this satire? If not, that's completely delusional and really a poor attempt at covering for Dear Leader. Adhering to the law and reporting stock trades is not the same as: running a cryptocurrency that can't be traced (Trump coin), running a mobile service provider while you control regulators (Trump mobile), pardoning a convicted fraudster for aiding/supporting your crypto schemes (Zhao pardon), saying you'll put a foreign leader in contact with your son for family business dealings (Indonesia and Eric Trump), and being gifted a $400M jet by Qatar. But sure, let's pretend these people are just as corrupt as each other. Especially when Trump explicitly campaigned on "draining the swamp" or whatever and his minions are now trying to change the subject and go: "but Pelosi!!!" The only reason you're even able to push this BS is because they're following the law and publicly disclosing these trades. Who is influencing Trump via his meme coin and various business dealings? We may never know.
        senordevnyc 11mo ago
        She's not just as corrupt, but she is definitely corrupt. Those trades have to be disclosed, but she gets 45 days to do so, and it seems blindingly obvious that she's using insider info to front run the market. It's disgusting, and I say that as someone who loathes Trump and is unlikely to ever vote for another Republican again after the last decade. That doesn't mean Pelosi isn't corrupt, it means our system allows for corruption.
        hypeatei 11mo ago
        I never said she isn't corrupt but insider trading has been a talking point long before this unprecedented corruption we're seeing in the Whitehouse. These whataboutisms are pointless and disavowing the behavior literally does nothing unless the other side clearly disavows their leader (Trump) which they have yet to do. I'll take Republicans/MAGAs seriously in their supposed effort to "drain the swamp" when he is held accountable.
jjav 11mo ago
> And shutdown for a month should trigger elections. I'd be more strict and say shutdown on day 1 trigger reelection for all senate and congress seats and the president & VP. Get everyone out. It's not like they don't know this is coming months in advance, so there is no excuse at all to fail at their job which is negotiating a compromise.
duxup 11mo ago
I feel like that would only harm a "poorer" president and give an advantage to rich presidents. Had the same discussion about state reps in my state. Pay them less as a punishment means you just get folks doing the job who are a specific demographic. Others simply can't...

speed_spread 11mo ago

It would become a war of attrition where the richest win because they can afford to.